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Old 11-16-2009, 10:26 PM
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I hope you guys respond quicker than those techs

I've sent 2 emails out in the past 2-3 week to dye techs,I havent got a response back,and im tired of waiting so im going to leave this up to anyone that can help here it is


im missing this screw were the red circle is.It's causing a leak to the point were i cannot use my dm.What size is it?Where can i get it?I've checked every o-ring in the LPR,Fuse bolt and the c-rings or w.e they are called in the noid,they're all good
And i had enough of just waiting for a response from dye so
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:53 PM
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you have one of the other screws in the wrong spot. put the other set screw there.... it baffles me too why they would do that but who knows...
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:56 PM
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make sure you are using size 313 orings on the outside lpr. the manual says 012 but a dye tech has confirmed its 013. that might be causing it to leak through one of those holes
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:22 AM
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Which dm is this?
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:41 AM
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Which dm is this?
^ this

and don't email them, call them up! do you have any idea of the TONS of emails they have to go through on a daily basis, a Dye Rep (zyzek) posted here that they get emails ranging from "why hasnt ollie land added me on facebook/myspace??" to "can you sponsor my little brothers team?".

Like I said, call 'em up or head to your nearest pb shop.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:00 AM
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^ this

and don't email them, call them up! do you have any idea of the TONS of emails they have to go through on a daily basis, a Dye Rep (zyzek) posted here that they get emails ranging from "why hasnt ollie land added me on facebook/myspace??" to "can you sponsor my little brothers team?".

Like I said, call 'em up or head to your nearest pb shop.
We have called them to but my the rep hasnt gotten to the tech yet
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:00 AM
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Which dm is this?
It is a Dm7
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:29 AM
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ok... DM7... cool

there isnt any screw for that hole. The screw closest to the noid is the retainer screw to hold the LPR and the middle is always loctite and never to be taken off where as the last one done have a screw... .. well, I dont have one on mine...

if it is leaking there, checking the outer Orings of the LPR (x4) the piston Oring...

also, make sure when you put the LPR back in properly

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Once it is lubed correctly just put the spring back in the housing. Slide the piston back through the spring, and then screw in the brass seal retainer. Insert the lpr back into the body of the gun making sure the indentation of the lpr matches up with the set screw hole. Push in the lpr and tighten down the set screw
(Taken from MatrixOwner maintenance guide)

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Old 11-17-2009, 07:34 AM
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That really doesnt make sense to have a hole there and not have a screw
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:47 AM
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it doesnt make sense having a hole that need to be screwed and loctite either... but its there..

have you checked if you have lined up the LPR correctly when inserting it back in?
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:24 PM
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No im in school right now and i left it at a shop so i have the resources to fix it.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:33 PM
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I've sent 2 emails out in the past 2-3 week to dye techs,I havent got a response back,and im tired of waiting so im going to leave this up to anyone that can help here it is


im missing this screw were the red circle is.It's causing a leak to the point were i cannot use my dm.What size is it?Where can i get it?I've checked every o-ring in the LPR,Fuse bolt and the c-rings or w.e they are called in the noid,they're all good
And i had enough of just waiting for a response from dye so
Thanks for your help
You're not missing a screw. I'm not going to rail you too hard because I've made this mistake before too. That hole right there is where your trigger frame screws into the body. You should have three threaded holes on the back end there. The one in the middle should be lock-tighted in (blue locktight) meaning it needs to be sealed. The hole in question is for your trigger frame. The hole at the other side is the LPR set screw. It does not need to be torqued down. Just screwed in there. Put your frame back on and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:09 PM
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I'm sorry you weren't able to get help as quickly as you needed. If you ever need anything please don't hesitate to PM me. I usually check my PM's several times a day to try and help everyone out that has questions.

Also, sending an email to the tech department is an effective yet slow way to get answers. Someone mentioned above that we have an extremely high rate of relatively invalid emails. That is 100% accurate.
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:49 PM
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You're not missing a screw. I'm not going to rail you too hard because I've made this mistake before too. That hole right there is where your trigger frame screws into the body. You should have three threaded holes on the back end there. The one in the middle should be lock-tighted in (blue locktight) meaning it needs to be sealed. The hole in question is for your trigger frame. The hole at the other side is the LPR set screw. It does not need to be torqued down. Just screwed in there. Put your frame back on and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
foul: im retarted just noticed that now thx... i just bought a x2 rebuild kit so ill see by friday if thats the problem hopefully
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:45 PM
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foul: im retarted just noticed that now thx... i just bought a x2 rebuild kit so ill see by friday if thats the problem hopefully
Feel like an idiot now, huh? Don't worry... I just did this the other day and was laughing at myself for the mistake. It's funny how we're soooo damn sensitive about our DM's!!!

Anyways, your best bet is to replace o-rings according to the leak guide. If you haven't replaced your o-rings in a while, I'd say go through and replace everything just so you have everything nice and fresh. The only one's that don't really need to be replaced are the clear UR o-rings as they last a long time. Lube up good but don't overdue it and you're good to go!!!!

One more thing I'd like to mention is that if you have your HPR adjustment screw screwed too far in (meaning lower fps) you will have a leak. Best test is to screw it all the way out (highest fps) and then screw it in 3-4 turns. You don't want to to go out and play like this... make sure you chrono. However, doing this will make sure you're HPR isn't set too low or high.

G'luck man and I'm sure you'll get that leak stopped eventually.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:50 PM
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lol yeah oh so sensitive...,and i tried the hpr 2 weeks ago it still leaked so im just gonna use a rebuild kit
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:56 PM
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lol yeah oh so sensitive...,and i tried the hpr 2 weeks ago it still leaked so im just gonna use a rebuild kit
Wrd, that should do the trick. G'luck!
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:48 PM
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