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Old 11-04-2009, 07:48 AM
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I know how to make a silencer v. do they work

It's a shocker, so the gas doesn't come out of anything but the front. I have an extra back.
I can make a silencer, I won't explain how because it is illegal(I think, but I won't take the chance). Would it work on a paintball gun to any degree more than you can get out of a regular barrel?
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:31 AM
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Any kind of covering you can do to the barrel will reduce noise. It's pretty common to dry fire a marker in a indoor sitting under a pillow to reduce the noise. So yes, anything you can fit around the barrel of a marker will help to reduce the noise level. Will it sound like a James Bond movie? No, but it will drop the dB level significantly. Think PVC insulation.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:40 AM
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Yeah, I was probably going to go with PVC caps and a large bore drill. It will just have a large bore back of about 6'' and then go into the silencer(no front). I don't think the silencer will need to be more than 6'' long.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:26 AM
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If it's illegal why take the risk?

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Old 11-04-2009, 11:18 AM
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its only illegal if if could be put on a real fire arm. theres no federal law that states you cant have a silencer for a paintball gun. as long as its not possible for it to be used on a real fire arm you're ok. and just put it over the barrel front, you'll kill your efficiency not running a front.

ps. the federal law on silencers is unconstitutional under the 10th amendment and possibly the 2nd.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:36 AM
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im not sure about the whole u.s. but where i live paintball guns are legally considered firearms, so it may be illegal
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:48 PM
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im not sure about the whole u.s. but where i live paintball guns are legally considered firearms, so it may be illegal
I would fight that because the only marker that could be considered a firearm would be the Tippman c3 because it actually uses a small explosion in the firing process.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:52 PM
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Well, I think the real issue at heart here is do they work. If your application is to try and make your marker shot signature softer, then yes they work. They will decrease your efficiency, but if you're worried about sound, you're probably not worried about your efficiency. As long as it seems practical to your application and you're not trying to mass produce and sale them, I wouldn't worry about any legality issues.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:58 PM
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its only illegal if if could be put on a real fire arm. theres no federal law that states you cant have a silencer for a paintball gun. as long as its not possible for it to be used on a real fire arm you're ok. and just put it over the barrel front, you'll kill your efficiency not running a front.

ps. the federal law on silencers is unconstitutional under the 10th amendment and possibly the 2nd.
People get jail time for doing it to air rifles so I don't see why you wouldn't. Either way just google it, you will find something. I made one for a pgp that worked. All you heard was the sear clicking. I just made something to go over the barrel with pvc, ported that, and had a piece that was a half inch bigger and filled the area with cotton balls.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:07 AM
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its only illegal if if could be put on a real fire arm. theres no federal law that states you cant have a silencer for a paintball gun. as long as its not possible for it to be used on a real fire arm you're ok. and just put it over the barrel front, you'll kill your efficiency not running a front.

ps. the federal law on silencers is unconstitutional under the 10th amendment and possibly the 2nd.
they work on the same principle, it can be jerry rigged to a real gun. this isn't the first time people pondered about this.

a DIY one made just for paintball may not work so well on a real gun, but the law doesn't care about that, if it works the slightest bit then it is considered so.

don't risk the legal trouble.
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:07 AM
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:38 PM
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I would fight that because the only marker that could be considered a firearm would be the Tippman c3 because it actually uses a small explosion in the firing process.
actually, im pretty sure they dont because the propane in it is a lot like compressed air and cant catch on fire
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:34 PM
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Here is the low-down on silencers;
This sorta pretains to real suppressors...but I figured this would give ya'll some idear as to where they're allowed and such.


Contrary to popular belief, removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors are legal to own under federal law. There are, however, 16 states, plus the District of Columbia , that prohibit the civilian ownership of removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors. At this time, the following states allow private ownership of removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, ME, MD,MS, MT, ND, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA,WV, WI, and WY. Of the sixteen states which do not allow civilian ownership, CA, IA, KS, MA, MO, and MI allow class 3 dealers and class two manufacturers to possess removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors.

Removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors, like machine-guns, are proscribed under the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934, and are regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. The procedure for owning a removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors may seem daunting at first, but actually requires less paperwork than buying an automobile. The buyer then has the chief law enforcement officer (Sheriff, Chief of Police, head of state police agency, district attorney, a judge with the power of arrest, or any other law enforcement officer approved for this procedure by the National Firearms Act branch of the BATF) sign the rear of the Form 4 attesting the prospective purchaser does not possess a criminal record and is not wanted. The two fingerprint cards must be completed and signed by a law enforcement agency. The completed paperwork is then sent to the Department of the Treasury with a check or money order for $200.00. The $200.00 is known as a transfer tax, as it must be paid each time ownership of the removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors is "transferred" (in this case, the dealer to the prospective purchaser). As long as the silencer is owned by the same person, the tax need not be paid again. Only if the owner sells it will a new transfer tax need to be paid. An owner may will his silencer to a lawful heir, with no tax incurred.

Once the paper work is submitted, it normally takes less than sixty days to receive the approved, stamped paperwork from NFA Branch. It is only upon the return of the approved paperwork that the dealer can allow the prospective purchaser to take possession of his new silencer. A copy of the approved paperwork must accompany the silencer at all times (the original should be stored in a safe deposit box). Removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors can be transported to other states which allow their ownership, but to transport a removable Silencer / Moderator / Sound Suppressors into one of the sixteen states which prohibit private ownership can subject the owner to serious state felony charges.




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Old 11-07-2009, 10:33 PM
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actually, im pretty sure they dont because the propane in it is a lot like compressed air and cant catch on fire
What? Propane burns.... you know like in a grill? Its also used in some engines (just like gasoline, except cleaner), sometimes for heating etc. Again, it burns.

C3 burns it as well.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:53 AM
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actually, im pretty sure they dont because the propane in it is a lot like compressed air and cant catch on fire
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:51 AM
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just so you all know i have look this up and the atf does consider silencers for paintball guns to be the same as one for a real firearm so you have to go through all the legal stuff and pay the 200.00 to own one.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:43 PM
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if this is for testing purposes (ie dryfiring whilst people are sleeping or w/e) you could just take a towel and stuff it into a pod. works great. if you are looking for a quieter shot onfield, look into a "rain cover".
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:37 PM
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I would fight that because the only marker that could be considered a firearm would be the Tippman c3 because it actually uses a small explosion in the firing process.
Why? Because he can't use a silencer? It gets tirning seeing all this crap about how they should fight it because of this, or that. Seriously, just ****en stop. You guys seem to think that it'll cost nothing to fight it, and somehow they will magically repel the law.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:25 PM
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Ya, you need paper work...and its a pain.
Friend of mine has ALOT of firearms. He has a suppressor for his M4 and his Mac 11 (VERY fun to shoot. I shot it at Knob Creek Gun Range, yall can google if you feel like it)

He told me it took him like 2 months for the paperwork to go through.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:13 AM
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I remember a long time ago there was a company that made silencers for autocockers.
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Old 11-21-2009, 03:18 AM
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People get jail time for doing it to air rifles so I don't see why you wouldn't. Either way just Google it, you will find something. I made one for a pgp that worked. All you heard was the sear clicking. I just made something to go over the barrel with PVC, ported that, and had a piece that was a half inch bigger and filled the area with cotton balls.
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look a whole series or air rifles with silencers!

id look up silencer(or dampaner) laws for your state. as the laws can vary pretty drastically between states. if you make a silencer out of pvc though im pretty sure your ok.

i doubt you will be flaunting it off in public anyways, and if you do, well have fun in jail.


ive made supressors for dry firing, ive made a couple for use in games. they worked ok, but they werent worth the effort in a game.

i wouldn't recommend making a barrel extension though, it will be more efficient too use a two piece barrel and make the front a supressor. so maybe a 2pc 14in bored out with 24 holes evenly spaced, deburred, and toss a shroud over it thats filled with a ploy blend cotton(not packed too ight or loose) you can use a firm mesh to make sure the cotton dosent push threw the holes.
this method will make your silencer useless on anything then a paintball gun.



again check your local laws. i am not certified to give any legal advice and this is all imho.

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