Last year Mr Gore's venture capital firm loaned a small California firm $75m to develop energy-saving technology...
...he deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants, the New York Times reports. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts.
Few people have been as vocal about the urgency of global warming and the need to reinvent the way the world produces and consumes energy as Mr Gore. And few have put as much money behind their advocacy and are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes.
Yeah there's already a thread on global warming, but it's always good to get things in perspective when it comes to the biggest promoters of the idea - namely that they usually have something to gain from it. From Obama's perspective, pushing the man made global warming myth is an excuse for some of the most blatant wealth redistribution of our time in legislations such as cap n' tax and in international treaties. For Gore, he makes some quick greenbacks and gets a peace prize (which I hear they're giving out in Rice Crispies boxes lately) or maybe it's even a little bit of both. Man made Global warming is not science, but there's plenty that will be willing to tell you it is for the right price.
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Did you miss the part of the article that mentioned his venture capital firm? It's sort of right there...
You would be find with Cheney currently running a venture capital firm investing in private military organizations while using his substantial political clout to agitate for overseas intervention then?
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yes because investing in sustainability is as negative as war profiteering?
Is that seriously your comparison?
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FuriousGeorge: "You seem to have this Freudian view that if you put an ad on television, it somehow influences their priorities greatly enough so that they go out and buy the product."
justinwb: "Thats great.......I dont really care what you think, you arent part of my target audience. My target audience would be someone with an IQ over 120." http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8254/outx.jpg
Yes, I am fine with Al Gore using his VC firm to invest in smart grid projects while simultaneously promoting global warming.
I am not fine with Dick Cheney using his VC firm to invest in defense companies while simultaneously promoting wars.
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FuriousGeorge: "You seem to have this Freudian view that if you put an ad on television, it somehow influences their priorities greatly enough so that they go out and buy the product."
justinwb: "Thats great.......I dont really care what you think, you arent part of my target audience. My target audience would be someone with an IQ over 120." http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8254/outx.jpg
Yes, I am fine with Al Gore using his VC firm to invest in smart grid projects while simultaneously promoting global warming.
I am not fine with Dick Cheney using his VC firm to invest in defense companies while simultaneously promoting wars.
Just wanted to check if you're actually as hipocrytical as I was assuming, kthx.
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yes that is total hypocrisy, to value the planet AND lives?
impossible.
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FuriousGeorge: "You seem to have this Freudian view that if you put an ad on television, it somehow influences their priorities greatly enough so that they go out and buy the product."
justinwb: "Thats great.......I dont really care what you think, you arent part of my target audience. My target audience would be someone with an IQ over 120." http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8254/outx.jpg
yes that is total hypocrisy, to value the planet AND lives?
impossible.
You're assuming that your position is the only one that values the planet and human lives, which is false. Both sides believe that they are doing what is best for the planet and human lives.
The hypocrisy lies in your holding of those that share your views to a different set of values than those who share different views from your own. This is hypocritical, dishonest, and abusive if practiced by those in power.
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ROMNEY2012: BETHERE!
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You're assuming that your position is the only one that values the planet and human lives, which is false.
The hypocrisy lies in your holding of those that share your views to a different set of values than those who share different views from your own. This is hypocritical, dishonest, and abusive if practiced by those in power.
So by being critical of people I disagree with, I am a hypocrite.
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FuriousGeorge: "You seem to have this Freudian view that if you put an ad on television, it somehow influences their priorities greatly enough so that they go out and buy the product."
justinwb: "Thats great.......I dont really care what you think, you arent part of my target audience. My target audience would be someone with an IQ over 120." http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8254/outx.jpg
So by being critical of people I disagree with, I am a hypocrite.
No. As I just pointed out your hypocrisy is grounded in your inability to hold your side to the same standards that you judge others. This is grade school stuff, get with it.
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1. Will this action help the planet?
Al Gore - yes -> I am ok with him making money off it because he's shown that he will reinvest it into green tech
Dick Cheney - no -> I am not ok with him making money off halliburton because he'll reinvest it into the oil industry
2. Will this action save or end lives?
Al Gore - Climate Chance , Save
Dick Cheney - Starting Wars, End
Its the exact same criteria, one just fails to pass.
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FuriousGeorge: "You seem to have this Freudian view that if you put an ad on television, it somehow influences their priorities greatly enough so that they go out and buy the product."
justinwb: "Thats great.......I dont really care what you think, you arent part of my target audience. My target audience would be someone with an IQ over 120." http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8254/outx.jpg
1) You have no facts backing your claims that Al Gore is saving lives by making up man made global warming.
2) You fail to understand the concept of conflict of interest, which is the point of this whole thread, and the pinnacle evidence of your narrow minded hypocrisy.
3) You actually still believe that man is causing global warming in the first place, so your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt the size of Alberta by anybody with a shred of common sense.
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Did you miss the part of the article that mentioned his venture capital firm? It's sort of right there...
Colluding with Government in order to profit, and then going out and making a movie that is alarmist and misleading, or just plain untrue in certain parts, and then going out and saying THE SCIENCE IS IN, GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO YOU'RE A DENIER--is not capitalism. Sorry sir.
3) You actually still believe that man is causing global warming in the first place, so your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt the size of Alberta by anybody with a shred of common sense.
wow damn you got me there, surely this opinion couldn't be formulated after working for 2 years on environmental and atmospheric particle pollutant analysis and solar panel efficiency technologies.
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FuriousGeorge: "You seem to have this Freudian view that if you put an ad on television, it somehow influences their priorities greatly enough so that they go out and buy the product."
justinwb: "Thats great.......I dont really care what you think, you arent part of my target audience. My target audience would be someone with an IQ over 120." http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8254/outx.jpg
wow damn you got me there, surely this opinion couldn't be formulated after working for 2 years on environmental and atmospheric particle pollutant analysis and solar panel efficiency technologies.
No, it couldn't be. If it was you would be throwing up some evidence backing your belief, since you're making demands to radically alter our entire global economy because of it. Instead you attempt to pull out the "wait mi job has 2 do with t3h environment!11" card for some insta-cred completly oblivious to the fact that there are just as many, likely more people much more involved in relevant fields that believe your opinion to be demonstrably false.
Snake oil's great for a get-rich-quick scheme, not so much for a national economic policy.
EDIT: You also failed to respond to my first two bullets, providing evidence for your claims that Al-Gore is saving lives, or acknowledging your hypocrisy in regards to conflict of interest.
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This is starting to sound a bit like the .50 caliber debates.
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