Hey guys. Well, how many of you use the "roll out" method to snap? I got a Q?
Hey guys. Well, no Im nota newbie. Ive been playing for 3 years. This is how I learned how to snap and is what I am sticking with.
But, what I Do know about this method is that the only things that should be visible when doing it are the outer half of your mask (and this part of your mask should be on the SAME profile as your hopper, making it as if your mask isnt even exposed at all), the hopper I know comes out, and then of course, your barrel, and then NOTHING else.
My question is, I know I do this, and I know I have a tight profile to begin with when snap shooting. My question is, as we all know, we always want to be as tight as possible when snap shooting, so, when doing this snap, is it actually possible to make LESS than your entire hopper from coming out. Because, I have done EVERYTHING I could think of to make only, say, 80% of the hopper to come out, but I just cannot do it. I have tried everything, from experimenting this goal using different bunkers, getting closer or even farther away from the magic line, to backing off the bunker a few inches, to "rolling" my abdomen even harder, but no matter what I do, I just cannot get this to happen. So what I ask (and yes I am in very good shape), in this style snap shooting, is it even possible to get tighter than showing your entire hopper, or is it that ALREADY the tightest profile that can be achieved with this style?
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you can angle your hopper in and you wont be able to see it when u pop out but i dont do it because when u do this your arm is more exposed so either way your going to be sosme what exposed
Or, you can play with your gun against the bunker. When fire is returned, simply dig into the bunker with your gun, but otherwise keep the hopper touching (or close to) the bunker as much as possible. This allows the hopper to be covered by the natural curve in the bunker itself, while your barrel sticks far enough forward to be clear of the bunker, allowing you to shoot straight.
Snap shooting should be done just as fast as you possibly can. The amount of surface area you expose isn't nearly as important as the amount of time you're exposed. However fast your fastest is, be faster.
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you can angle your hopper in and you wont be able to see it when u pop out but i dont do it because when u do this your arm is more exposed so either way your going to be sosme what exposed
yea I know that also depends on what bunker. this would especially go for a dorito or an aztec. The thing is tho even if I was playing like a can, or any bunker that is totally straight, it wouldnt make a difference if I tilted my gun inwards, as, when rolling out, Id have to roll PAST the, for the most part, initial startiing point, in which my gun and hopper would be completely vertical and not tilted.
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people will say to lean your hopper in, but this exposes more arm. so i just keep my marker vertical at nearly all times
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Your mistaken. I do side bends with a 30 lb dumbell to even FURTHER strengthen my abs and help with muscle memory of this, rollout method even more. What you just said is extremely ignorant. I am actually a very fast gun battler, as my snap shooting is insanely quick, as I literally practice with at least 200 balls a day (so much white box paint in my closet). This technique, while more uncommon, is actually a very good one. Is very fast as long as you practice it, helps with stronger sexy abs, and, is dead on accurate as your upper body manipulates the marker, meaning, once you are on your target, your body just continues to do the same quick motion, and at that point, you will always be ball on ball......
Don't discredit one technique because it isn't the "in" thing/style to do.
There are subjective flaws to everyyyyy technique for whatever you do on the field. But being slow, is NOT one of the disadvantages of the roll out method. Any technique can be just as fast as the other. It just depends on the person doing it.
Your mistaken. I do side bends with a 30 lb dumbell to even FURTHER strengthen my abs and help with muscle memory of this, rollout method even more. What you just said is extremely ignorant. I am actually a very fast gun battler, as my snap shooting is insanely quick, as I literally practice with at least 200 balls a day (so much white box paint in my closet). This technique, while more uncommon, is actually a very good one. Is very fast as long as you practice it, helps with stronger sexy abs, and, is dead on accurate as your upper body manipulates the marker, meaning, once you are on your target, your body just continues to do the same quick motion, and at that point, you will always be ball on ball......
Don't discredit one technique because it isn't the "in" thing/style to do.
There are subjective flaws to everyyyyy technique for whatever you do on the field. But being slow, is NOT one of the disadvantages of the roll out method. Any technique can be just as fast as the other. It just depends on the person doing it.
The rollout style can expose a person for a longer period of time, is less likely to keep you pointed at runners and your specific case with the workout is hardly commonplace in this sport. Be careful what you sell as fact.
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[quote=Castro #66;61607714]The rollout style can expose a person for a longer period of time, is less likely to keep you pointed at runners and your specific case with the workout is hardly commonplace in this sport. Be careful what you sell as fact.[/QUOTE
holy crap... The weirdest thing is that I do the same thing. What the heck? Yea. I ont remember where I was told to but, I do the same workout, but with 20 lbs instead. Again, what the heck? Anyway, yea, I know what your saying. It CAN be that one stays out longer while snapping. But, I practice it very often as well, and work on the speed of it very very very often. In fact, I think it is quite fast, as I can snap at targets/oppenents posting up on me about 30-35 feet away (which a paintball at 300 fps will reach almost instantaneously) and I can snap back in before the ball reaches or passes the target. SO, Im guessing that it is commonplace that many who DO use this form of snapshooting arent very fast, but from what you said, that is just the majority (which should be taken into consderation). And so, im guessing because (well at least I know that I am very fast) I use the whole weights thing, which I believe is very similar to what Joey said above, I am a more uncommon one who uses this technique, and are one of the few who are actually fast with it? <------ all of that is what I believe you may have been implying?
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I think the matter of speed lies more in that a lot of people don't understand how to aim consistently, whether by posting or snapping. This slows them down a bit, or they get a little trigger happy once on the "outside" of a snap.
Personally, I snap as fast as I possibly can, with a pretty steady platform. I do shoot pump, so I rely on the ability to get this to work at times.
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I think the matter of speed lies more in that a lot of people don't understand how to aim consistently, whether by posting or snapping. This slows them down a bit, or they get a little trigger happy once on the "outside" of a snap.
Personally, I snap as fast as I possibly can, with a pretty steady platform. I do shoot pump, so I rely on the ability to get this to work at times.
oh. Well I mean I see it the same way. I will always strive to be even faster than my fastest you know? And I agree sometimes people will get trigger happy when outside of the snap. Like instead of taking that snap and shooting just 2 or 3 very quick balls, they will still try to accomplish killing the guy posting on them but they do it much more dangerously by shooting not 2 or 3 but 10 balls at the posting opponent, making them, of course, exposed longer. So yes, I agree with the whole speed thing. I think Im okay with the way I roll out, because, I have realized that I am quite accurate doing it, as (and this has come about from practicing it in my backyard in my mini shooting range almost every day) well as very fast because thats the main thing I practice with it, speed. Thats the most important thing. I guess I can agree why most people dont like this form of snap shooting, as it, for the most part, requires more practice to develop speed, as the abdomen muscles are really the only thing controlling it, and most players, although in decent shape, dont constantly concentrate on excercising their abs. Thats why I believe that many who dooooo choose to use the roll out method, generally arent very fast on the way back in, as they dont do strenth training or their abdomens. Again, I guess I am a rare excepton, as I have developed a very fast branch of the "rollout" method.
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"Please keep your arms and legs inside the field at all times. Failure to cooperate with these instructions may result in injury,death, or worse, ejection from the field."
The rollout style can expose a person for a longer period of time, is less likely to keep you pointed at runners and your specific case with the workout is hardly commonplace in this sport. Be careful what you sell as fact.
normal way exposes more of your body than the rollout method does. I only use it for snapping though not when i'm "pointing at runners" so i can't comment on whether that's true or not. Both methods have their pros and cons but i just prefer the rollout
I think the matter of speed lies more in that a lot of people don't understand how to aim consistently, whether by posting or snapping. This slows them down a bit, or they get a little trigger happy once on the "outside" of a snap.
Personally, I snap as fast as I possibly can, with a pretty steady platform. I do shoot pump, so I rely on the ability to get this to work at times.
normal way exposes more of your body than the rollout method does. I only use it for snapping though not when i'm "pointing at runners" so i can't comment on whether that's true or not. Both methods have their pros and cons but i just prefer the rollout
well its not ur body that shows during the rollout. Its your hopper, half your goggles (usually less than half if you tuck in your head so only your outside eye shows) and also, the part of the mask that comes out is on the same profile as the hopper so its as if the mask isnt even a part of the profile. Then the last thing to show is the barrel. So, ulimately, the only profile there is the hopper and barrel.
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"Please keep your arms and legs inside the field at all times. Failure to cooperate with these instructions may result in injury,death, or worse, ejection from the field."
Well, I suppose a person could get that kind of exposure figured out, but they must also consider that an arm is a much harder target to break a ball on than a loader.
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when shooting tourney paint, that crap is going to break over 90% of the time
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"Please keep your arms and legs inside the field at all times. Failure to cooperate with these instructions may result in injury,death, or worse, ejection from the field."
Your mistaken. I do side bends with a 30 lb dumbell to even FURTHER strengthen my abs and help with muscle memory of this, rollout method even more. What you just said is extremely ignorant. I am actually a very fast gun battler, as my snap shooting is insanely quick, as I literally practice with at least 200 balls a day (so much white box paint in my closet). This technique, while more uncommon, is actually a very good one. Is very fast as long as you practice it, helps with stronger sexy abs, and, is dead on accurate as your upper body manipulates the marker, meaning, once you are on your target, your body just continues to do the same quick motion, and at that point, you will always be ball on ball......
Don't discredit one technique because it isn't the "in" thing/style to do.
There are subjective flaws to everyyyyy technique for whatever you do on the field. But being slow, is NOT one of the disadvantages of the roll out method. Any technique can be just as fast as the other. It just depends on the person doing it.
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But I heart my pm7 ;)
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