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Old 07-29-2014, 01:58 AM #358
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I assume tgis will come out at world cup?
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:09 AM #359
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It'll be out when it's ready. I know these guys well enough to know they're not going to put out something and then have tons of revisions for it. I'd rather they take their time and get it done right the first time.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:06 PM #360
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This still isn't out?! Glad I didn't wait for it. It's been about a year now since it was first talked about. I wouldn't get your hopes up for this coming out soon.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:07 PM #361
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We should have a good estimate on exactly when the guns will finish production in a few days.
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Old 07-30-2014, 12:35 PM #362
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This still isn't out?! Glad I didn't wait for it. It's been about a year now since it was first talked about. I wouldn't get your hopes up for this coming out soon.
i thought you were talking about a DM with an OLED or a new bolt
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:35 PM #363
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This still isn't out?! Glad I didn't wait for it. It's been about a year now since it was first talked about. I wouldn't get your hopes up for this coming out soon.
What? Would you rather buy a competitor's marker than has had what, 4-5 revisions now?

Or wait to buy one marker that doesn't need revisions from a company that wants to produce quality markers and not mass built markers for the mindless?
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:56 PM #364
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Come on chaps - it's all been said and cleared up. Let's get back on topic and enjoy the fact there are new paintball guns coming out
I'm with this guy. There is friction being created where none need be.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:41 AM #365
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So on the gun - looks like it costs more to make the LPR optional than to include it in all the guns.
LPR is in the front grip and adjusts from the bottom, front cap on bottom tube stays the same.
I hate how long this has taken, but I love the improvement.
We also completely changed the Inline reg. After we put in the LPR, the new LPR was in for up (higher pressure) and the HPR was out for up. Couldn't have that, everything else was so right that some were tempted to say - not a fatal flaw - but no, wasn't going to allow that. Then a couple said - just use a reverse threaded screw. Again, just not good enough. So new reg and new part had to be sourced.
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So on the gun - looks like it costs more to make the LPR optional than to include it in all the guns.
LPR is in the front grip and adjusts from the bottom, front cap on bottom tube stays the same.
I hate how long this has taken, but I love the improvement.
. Couldn't have that, everything else was so right that some were tempted to say - not a fatal flaw - but no, wasn't going to allow that. Then a couple said - just use a reverse threaded screw. Again, just not good enough. So new reg and new part had to be sourced.
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:52 PM #367
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Hay jack I'll take one of the flowed ones for $200 off regular price.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:57 PM #368
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:39 AM #369
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Awfully quiet in Alien land.....

Any updates?
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Old 08-05-2014, 05:38 PM #370
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:57 PM #371
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Jack posted less than a week ago, what more needs to be said? The more time he spends updating us, the more time he's away from the mills that are making the deception. He'll give us an update when he has something solid to report.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:54 PM #372
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Jack posted less than a week ago, what more needs to be said? The more time he spends updating us, the more time he's away from the mills that are making the deception. He'll give us an update when he has something solid to report.
I am sure he is actually milling them personally
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:36 PM #373
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Jack posted less than a week ago, what more needs to be said? The more time he spends updating us, the more time he's away from the mills that are making the deception. He'll give us an update when he has something solid to report.
I am sure he is actually milling them personally
You missed my point entirely. Let me rephrase; The more time he spends posting responses for us, the less time he can spend overseeing/testing/approving designs for/quality control checking the Deception.

In essence, building a marker isn't easy. If it was, we'd all be building our dream markers and everything would be 1-of-1. Jack is working on a "new to mass production" valve design and is busy over-engineering the snot out of it. I would be a little disconcerted if he was wasting time lurking on here all day, waiting to reply to our every comment. He'll post when he has something meaningful to say.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:18 PM #374
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Because spending a few minutes writing a response to a query on a forum will completely derail the process of making a gun.

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Because spending a few minutes writing a response to a query on a forum will completely derail the process of making a gun.

Just let the man make the gun. Then we can criticize \ praise him.
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Old 08-08-2014, 06:18 PM #376
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Because spending a few minutes writing a response to a query on a forum will completely derail the process of making a gun.


When is your marker coming out??
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That is a terrible argument. Saying that to offer criticism one must also be in the exact same position is ignorant.

So stop making lame excuses.
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:28 AM #378
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How is that a "terrible argument"? i asked you a straight question. have you ever mass produced a marker?? im guessing you havent. so how do you know the process? maybe he is to busy to check the forums everyday. he might even have a family and a life outside of paintball. shocking to think, i know! and if you're soooo concerned about updates,call alien. im sure jack would answer the phone. but i honestly believe you are not interested in updates, you're just posting questions because you can.
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