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Old 07-08-2014, 06:36 PM #1
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Any drawbacks to the VW 2.0T?

I'm going to check out a 2007 Jetta 2.0T tomorrow that seems like a pretty good deal. Other than VW recommending premium for the car, are there any mechanical drawbacks or flaws with the 2.0T motor? I sold my '97 4Runner to get something better for commuting and this has been the best value I've seen yet...
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:15 PM #2
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I had an 07 gti dsg. it was always broken from the time it was about 3 months old. I traded it.
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The FSI 2.0T's are known for burning oil. The VW's aren't horrible, but there are actually TSB's out for that. It's just something they do. I don't know if the FSI's share this with the TSI's, but the TSI engines, being direct injected get a lot of carbon build up. So much so that regular fuel system cleaner stuff won't fix it. They need to have the intake manifold taken off to soak and scrape the intake valves clean.

If you want a RELIABLE commuter and want a newer VW, get a 2.5L 5 cylinder. They don't break anywhere near as often as the new turbo's.
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why would you sell a 97 4 runner
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:18 PM #7
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The FSI 2.0T's are known for burning oil. The VW's aren't horrible, but there are actually TSB's out for that. It's just something they do. I don't know if the FSI's share this with the TSI's, but the TSI engines, being direct injected get a lot of carbon build up. So much so that regular fuel system cleaner stuff won't fix it. They need to have the intake manifold taken off to soak and scrape the intake valves clean.

If you want a RELIABLE commuter and want a newer VW, get a 2.5L 5 cylinder. They don't break anywhere near as often as the new turbo's.
only difference FSI to TSI is belt vs chain.


oil consumption spec is quart per 1k.
timing belts deposit rubber on rollers and make noise
carbon buildup on valves (fuel cleaner doesn't fix it because direct injection. it never hits the valves) average rate is 4 hours labor, totals like $650-700 with parts/supplies.
breather problems always
cams wear out and destroy the thousand dollar high pressure fuel pump. 10 hours labor, $500 camshaft and $1k pump.
TSB for lifter noise
TSB for control arm bushings
need rear shocks frequently, like to cup up tires.
flywheel is a grand on its own when you wear the clutch out
DSG's have both mechatronic unit and clutch issues
intake manifold flap actuators break
cam chain/tensioner problems causing valve damage (even the belt drive FSI has a chain between the two cams)

buy it, move to north carolina and give me your money to keep it on the road.

edit: diverter valve diaphragms tear causing CEL/no boost
in tank fuel pumps like to fail
wastegate actuator doesn't fit properly and wears out the wastegate arm causing loose wastegate and thus boost leaks, requires turbo replacement to correct.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:15 PM #8
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The FSI 2.0T's are known for burning oil. The VW's aren't horrible, but there are actually TSB's out for that. It's just something they do. I don't know if the FSI's share this with the TSI's, but the TSI engines, being direct injected get a lot of carbon build up. So much so that regular fuel system cleaner stuff won't fix it. They need to have the intake manifold taken off to soak and scrape the intake valves clean.

If you want a RELIABLE commuter and want a newer VW, get a 2.5L 5 cylinder. They don't break anywhere near as often as the new turbo's.
Thanks for the info, that was helpful.

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I'm going to check out a 2007 Jetta 2.0T tomorrow that seems like a pretty good deal. Other than VW recommending premium for the car, are there any mechanical drawbacks or flaws with the 2.0T motor? I sold my '97 4Runner to get something better for commuting and this has been the best value I've seen yet...
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The FSI 2.0T's are known for burning oil. The VW's aren't horrible, but there are actually TSB's out for that. It's just something they do. I don't know if the FSI's share this with the TSI's, but the TSI engines, being direct injected get a lot of carbon build up. So much so that regular fuel system cleaner stuff won't fix it. They need to have the intake manifold taken off to soak and scrape the intake valves clean.

If you want a RELIABLE commuter and want a newer VW, get a 2.5L 5 cylinder. They don't break anywhere near as often as the new turbo's.
I actually had an issue with carbon buildup in my GTI before I even hit 30k miles. They fixed it under warranty, but that's a bit worrisome.
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I actually had an issue with carbon buildup in my GTI before I even hit 30k miles. They fixed it under warranty, but that's a bit worrisome.
Not surprising. These engines suck for that. If it weren't warranty they usually want around 4 hours of labor for it, give or take.
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2.5 is also junk. loud, not great on gas, short on power and ALLLLL the timing chain problems, plus their vacuum pumps leak oil like it's their sole purpose.
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Not surprising. These engines suck for that. If it weren't warranty they usually want around 4 hours of labor for it, give or take.
almost all the DI engines do that, it's worse when the car does a lot of short trips
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personally, i wish all of you would buy vw's. pays the bills.
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I would probably buy the ****test version of the jetta when VW has the 0% APR deal just to beat on a car for awhile
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yes please avoid i love german cars but never been a fan of this motor. the TDI's are awesome and the new Mazda 6 is damn hard to beat. the on thing i will say is VW is one of two companies i trust the new dual clutch trans auto that are common now. Good luck with what ever you get
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yes please avoid i love german cars but never been a fan of this motor. the TDI's are awesome and the new Mazda 6 is damn hard to beat. the on thing i will say is VW is one of two companies i trust the new dual clutch trans auto that are common now. Good luck with what ever you get
transmissions are a vendor part. they're almost all ZF or Aisin now. hell, the 8 speed auto in the Ram is the same unit as the 8 speed in half the Audi line. made by ZF. chysler manufactures their own under license but the parts interchange. the only difference off the line is the tq/power rating of the friction disks and a few of the hard parts for different ratios.
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