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Old 07-09-2014, 09:09 PM #1
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Azodin issue

Have an azodin kaos with no upgrades other than a CP regulator.
I have the reg and velocity adjuster maxed out. The marker doesn't fire but just recocks every shot. Please note I have tried every pressure in between. I have never actually tested the output on my cp but my tank regulator is 850.
I was planning on getting the zero kit anyway, so if the issue is pressure I feel like that would fix the problem.
I plan to do a full tear down tomorrow. I was just running the symptoms by the community to see if you guys had any idea what I should look for.

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Old 07-09-2014, 09:15 PM #2
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Have you done anything with the valve?
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:21 PM #3
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Haven't messed with it, I'm going to pull it tomorrow and see what's going on. Sounds like maybe the stem isn't opening enough? I'm thinking about it too much like a traditional poppet maybe.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:35 PM #4
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If the gun isn't firing, I'd check the striker setup. Make sure the spacer is in the correct position (behind the striker, towards the rear of the gun).
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:43 PM #5
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Yeah I'll look in the manual where it should be, thanks.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:28 AM #6
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Do you have the techt bolt?

it sounds like maybe your bolt or valve is installed upside down.
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:51 AM #7
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I have the stock bolt. I'll pull the valve tomorrow, there is a possibility it could be in wrong l haven't had it outside of the gun during my ownership
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:53 AM #8
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outside of that id check that the valve spring isnt too stiff or that it or the cupseal/stem isnt getting somewhat stuck
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:04 AM #9
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Pulled the gun apart and found a few things.
1. yes the valve was in upside down
2. the striker oring is missing
3. orings on valve are sketchy

I put the valve in the right way and aired it up with a leak down the barrel type thing. Gun would fire but make a fart type sound and not recock. I pulled the valve out again and i think this time i put it in backwards :/
Also while i had it out i went ahead and replaced orings.
Put the gun back together and we aired up with no leaks (good thing).
Tried to fire and it still made the fart sound and no recock. This makes me think I should be able to just replace the proprietary oring and should be good to go (since on every troubleshoot page that is the first solution under this problem).
Thanks for the help, any additional input would be great. If someone has a direct link to these that would be cool otherwise i'll do some searching.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:05 AM #10
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also my marker doesnt appear to have the star looking thing on the top of the cupseal. not sure what this does?
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:12 AM #11
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make sure the striker cap is tight as well. as long as you have the valve and cupseal assembled correctly and you are certain that you have 450-500 psi after the reg, you should be good to go
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:21 AM #12
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The star thing is a centering guide that keeps the poppet pin/cup seal centered in the lower tube. You actually may be fine without it. There is just a small chance that the poppet may not fill back in place after a shot (and you'll just have air gushing through the breach as a result).

As for the farting, yup, that's the o-rimg on the striker. In a pinch, you could use a polyurethane tank o-ring. I believe the size for that striker o-ring is a standard -015. If you want an exact replacement, contact Azodin by phone or PM here and they will get you squared away.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:22 AM #13
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make sure the striker cap is tight as well. as long as you have the valve and cupseal assembled correctly and you are certain that you have 450-500 psi after the reg, you should be good to go
So I would need to get:
-striker O-ring
-cup seal guide (star shaped thing)
I may just order the zero system and see if they can throw in a striker oring since i was planning on getting it anyway and there would be no point in getting a new cupseal guide since the cupseal assembly is replaced with the zero system.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:16 AM #14
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I don't believe that missing the star will cause it NOT to recock, maybe leak, but not recock. make sure you have the correct size oring on the striker and make sure your pressure is good. CA was right .015 is the oring size. I don't always use Azodin orings and I've never had a problem. What type of lube are you using?
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:20 AM #15
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Changed the striker oring to a tank oring. put a little bit of oil on it (just remmington gun oil (what i use on my mags and my phantom). and put it in.
Sounded like a machine gun. Watched some tech videos and saw that a common problem is the striker oring getting caught on the sear.
I removed the grip frame so as to clear the sear from the striker upon installation .
Aired it up and it shoots and recocks.
It's loud as hell and haven't tested velocity but that is just reg tuning stuff.

Thanks for all the help!
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hell yea. no problem man
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Good deal .

And to smalltown for, well, being Mr. Smalltownkaos .
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