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Old 08-08-2013, 11:52 AM #1
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Possibility of a new field in Columbia area, what's your thoughts?

I've been under a lot of thought lately about opening a field in the Columbia area possibly and looking for a little input. I've been aging the game a long time and would really like to take this possibility into consideration. If I decide to do so I will be looking to have one maybe two turf speedball fields with a large woodsball area for rek play along with scenario games from time to time.
If I do so I will be looking to have a pro-shop with low to mid end guns on hand along with a assortment of soft goods, tanks, hoppers and so forth.
A place hasn't been determined but looking for the amount of interest in this before I proceed and get a realtor involved and start calling company reps.
Any input would greatly be appreciated.
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Old 08-08-2013, 04:12 PM #2
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Skeeter would say there are easier ways to make money.
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:54 PM #3
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Not looking to clear a huge profit margin. But not looking to loose ether.
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:06 PM #4
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Ok so I'm going to be honest here. Asking people if they will have interest in a new field in an area doesn't exactly mean they are going to show up. Also it sounds like you are thinking about dropping a HUGE chunk of change into this and not lose money... This could prove dangerous. A pro shop is a hard way to make money. Generally you will have more money sitting on the shelf than actually going through your register. Also speedball fields/players are not where you are going to make a buck either. Go read in the Field Owners Forum. There are some very smart owners in there that would advise against starting so big. Reading in that forum is a great way to see the do's and don'ts as well. Good luck if you decide to do this but... Don't throw caution to the wind.
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Old 08-09-2013, 04:42 AM #5
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Not looking to clear a huge profit margin. But not looking to loose ether.
suggested reading: The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It..

I believe the odds are: 25% you will make it one year and 6.25% you will still be in business after 4 years.

Startup cost: 50K+ .. odds of loosing it all: 93.75%

So it you can't walk away from $50,000 with a smile on your face then don't gamble. If you can, then odds are this post would not be in a paintball forum. Skeeter is right btw.. there are easier ways to make money.. assuming that is the goal of course.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:09 AM #6
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I think there is room in the market, if only because both fields currently half *** it.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:35 PM #7
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How bout somewhere between Columbia and Florence, along I20? It would maybe be a short trip from either place and can possibly pull in some peeps from Myrtle Beach/Conway/Aynor areas.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:19 AM #8
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I think it wouldn't be to hard to grab a good portion of the market share...
and as I've seen mentioned above....
Your initial investment and ROI are critical...
..any help I can provide let me know
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:52 PM #9
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I would advise against a pro shop too much overhead and never enough sales, purchasing gear on the internet is just much more convenient and cheaper. Turf is going to be too much of an upfront investment so just stick with well maintained grass maybe a lot where the fields can be rotated and moved to allow the grass to recover from time to time. Put your money into the woodsball first for parties and groups that is where your money is. And have plenty of parking to accommodate large tournies, The CFOA is always looking for new fields, and possible scenarios. It is a huge risk but if you do it right with just the essentials and decent facilities it may just float.
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:15 PM #10
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How bout somewhere between Columbia and Florence, along I20? It would maybe be a short trip from either place and can possibly pull in some peeps from Myrtle Beach/Conway/Aynor areas.
I'd make the trip.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:36 AM #11
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do it!. i do like the idea of not having turf.. just move the speedball field around from time to time.
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:09 PM #12
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My thoughts are there are already two commercial fields in the Columbia area with Ballbusters and Triggertyme. Its a crowded market already, but both fields arent extremely close to the downtown/USC area.

Triggertyme has the established 80+ acres of woods field but is run down, pretty far from downtown Columbia, and is run by someone who really doesnt know paintball well. When they had a store in 5 points years ago, triggertyme would pull 100+ people on the weekends because if the advertising gained in a large retail district. The owner at the time had his father pass away and sold the buisness to someone who didnt have a paintball background and that field suffered considerably as a result.

Ballbusters moved in the last few years from a busy area of lexington to just south of Columbia near the farmers market in order to reduce operational costs and get a sizable woods field. They have an xball field and developed some woods. Ballbusters is owned by paintball players and they IMO have a better feel for how to run a field. They are developing their woods fields at a steady but somewhat slow pace and have a lot of room to expand. They are just starting to get their scenerio games up and running so hopefully that will continue to grow.

Should you want to open a field in Columbia, I think you would have to offer something that neither ballbusters nor triggertyme can. Honestly I think an indoor field near downtown would probably start pulling customers away from both. Id say about 3/5 of the year the weather in Columbia is miserably hot and humid. If you had an indoor field with air conditioning you would be impervious to the weather shortened peak seasons. Youd probably have a healthy showing from USC students.

Insane Paintball in Chatanooga did this a while back and theres a field in Orlando FL I played that did something similar. They got an old factory or storage warehouse property. Insane at one time had 2 indoor turf airball fields, 3 or 4 outdoor fields, and an indoor air conditioned staging area. The Orlando field had a big indoor concept field with forts, tires, and pallets as well as several outdoor fields.

Honestly though, I dont know how Triggertyme is still in buisness. Ball Busters are run by good people and they have a sustainable buisness plan so they probably arent going anywhere. I do think whoever decides to have a retail location downtown in 5 points or the Vista will get a great deal of exposure to a huge population of people that have no idea Columbia has paintball fields. Even if the retail store operates at a net loss, the increase in field buisness would likely make it worth it.

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Old 03-23-2014, 11:07 AM #13
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^^Couldn't agree with you anymore! Perfect explanation, don't forget about us high schoolers! Well i'm a senior mow about to graduate but to be honest columbia is the most boring capital ever lived/been too. There is absolutely nothing to do here for us teens, but go to sandhills, frankies, or nothing. I play paintball at Ballbusters and PBC occasionally. I got many of my friends into it and even my JROTC battalion goes to play twice every year. Oh and the graduating seniors too! A pro shop downtown would be great, and a new field close by would too!
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:17 AM #14
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Theres plenty of things to do here. You can go do the "beach" at the river next to the zoo, athetic events at the University of South Carolina, downtown concerts, go out to eat on Main St, Vista, or 5 points, ect. Hiking around Congaree national monument, biking at Harbison State forest, movies all around town.

Granted most of that involves drinking so it sucks to be underaged but still a lot to do about here.
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Theres plenty of things to do here. You can go do the "beach" at the river next to the zoo, athetic events at the University of South Carolina, downtown concerts, go out to eat on Main St, Vista, or 5 points, ect. Hiking around Congaree national monument, biking at Harbison State forest, movies all around town.

Granted most of that involves drinking so it sucks to be underaged but still a lot to do about here.
agreed. columbia's not a bad city at all.

A field on the west side of town (lake murray area) would probably do well considering the clientele. For downtown, using a field concept similar to dosser works in atlanta would make a lot of sense, if you could find the space to do it. I'm sure there's an old space on the south side of town near the stadium that would fit well. For those not in the loop, dosser works has a covered area that used to be a shipping platform (or something of the sort). http://www.dosserworks.com/#!photos/c1plo
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Old 03-24-2014, 04:00 PM #16
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If it's anything like Black ops paintball in Fayetteville NC, I'd be there.
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agreed. columbia's not a bad city at all.

A field on the west side of town (lake murray area) would probably do well considering the clientele. For downtown, using a field concept similar to dosser works in atlanta would make a lot of sense, if you could find the space to do it. I'm sure there's an old space on the south side of town near the stadium that would fit well. For those not in the loop, dosser works has a covered area that used to be a shipping platform (or something of the sort). http://www.dosserworks.com/#!photos/c1plo
I can think of a lot of places like that in Columbia. Theres an empty building on Sunset Blvd between Main and 277 that looks like a grocery store sized building that would be pretty sweet. I might have to check that out next time Im spending some time in ATL.
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I can think of a lot of places like that in Columbia. Theres an empty building on Sunset Blvd between Main and 277 that looks like a grocery store sized building that would be pretty sweet. I might have to check that out next time Im spending some time in ATL.
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