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Old 02-14-2014, 10:59 AM #1
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Can I shave down my gun?

Hey guys, I have seen lots of projects on here of people shaving down their own guns, but they never show how. What tools would I need to shave down parts of my gun. And also, how would I polish it after without having to get a buffer thing-a-majig (pardon my ignorance on this subject).
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:35 AM #2
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You are wanting to round parts or make cuts? A file is good for making cuts, sand paper is good for rounding edges and cleaning up file work, Scotch Brite for a half polish. Should be decent for anno after that.
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Removing metal can be a very simple or very complicated process depending upon the metal, the desired result, and the time you wish to invest. Over a long period of time you can shape soft metals such as gold or brass with soft surfaces such as rags or your hands. To shape titanium or high carbon steel requires machinery. But lets talk about your marker which is most likely made of 6061 T6 aluminum.

"Polishing" removes little material, mostly from peaks and hard edges, and results in a very smooth surface. There are many tutorials on here about how to polish your gun (such as this). The simple break down is this: chemically remove your anodizing, very light sanding with very high grit sandpaper, very heavy buffing. Tooling required is minimal: a dremel or electric drill with the right heads can polish. You can even do it by hand if you're patient enough.

"heavy sanding" can remove as much material as you're willing to work off. Simply use heavier grit sand paper to remove material from wherever you wish. Again the tools are simple but the time invested can be extensive depending on how much you want to remove. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to do this, experiment with varying grits of sand paper (preferably on something else) until you can remove exactly how much you want to. Increase the grit as you go along to smooth your surface. Typically a heavy sanding is followed by polishing as the results aren't very pretty. The problem with sanding is that it is only as accurate as you are. You're shape will be irregular and asymmetric. Many people like that look, I personally do not but, it's entirely up to you.

Finally comes milling. Milling has the advantage of precision, you can remove exact amounts of material, from exact spots, and change your marker into an exact shape. Milling is expensive and requires complicated machines. People spend many years learning how to use a mill. This is the method I most prefer but I have the advantage of access to mills and years of practice, it is certainly not for a beginner unless you have a friend who can do it.
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Removing metal can be a very simple or very complicated process depending upon the metal, the desired result, and the time you wish to invest. Over a long period of time you can shape soft metals such as gold or brass with soft surfaces such as rags or your hands. To shape titanium or high carbon steel requires machinery. But lets talk about your marker which is most likely made of 6061 T6 aluminum. "Polishing" removes little material, mostly from peaks and hard edges, and results in a very smooth surface. There are many tutorials on here about how to polish your gun (such as this). The simple break down is this: chemically remove your anodizing, very light sanding with very high grit sandpaper, very heavy buffing. Tooling required is minimal: a dremel or electric drill with the right heads can polish. You can even do it by hand if you're patient enough. "heavy sanding" can remove as much material as you're willing to work off. Simply use heavier grit sand paper to remove material from wherever you wish. Again the tools are simple but the time invested can be extensive depending on how much you want to remove. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to do this, experiment with varying grits of sand paper (preferably on something else) until you can remove exactly how much you want to. Increase the grit as you go along to smooth your surface. Typically a heavy sanding is followed by polishing as the results aren't very pretty. The problem with sanding is that it is only as accurate as you are. You're shape will be irregular and asymmetric. Many people like that look, I personally do not but, it's entirely up to you. Finally comes milling. Milling has the advantage of precision, you can remove exact amounts of material, from exact spots, and change your marker into an exact shape. Milling is expensive and requires complicated machines. People spend many years learning how to use a mill. This is the method I most prefer but I have the advantage of access to mills and years of practice, it is certainly not for a beginner unless you have a friend who can do it.
thank you both for the advice, I have plenty of time on my hands so I am going to sand down the aluminum and make it thinner. Thank you very much to the both of ya
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There are tons of how-tos online for sanding and polishing, they often give specific grits to use
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There are tons of how-tos online for sanding and polishing, they often give specific grits to use
I read up on it, I am going to use a Dremel to shave down sharp edges and them polish with the sand paper
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The BIG question is what gun do you plan on doing this to? Some guns have a fine line in tolerance. Last thing you want is an expensive paper weight.
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The BIG question is what gun do you plan on doing this to? Some guns have a fine line in tolerance. Last thing you want is an expensive paper weight.
Insight ng, I want to shave down some of the sharp edges
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Insight ng, I want to shave down some of the sharp edges
You want to take the ridges out and make it smooth? Like the Victus?
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Removing metal can be a very simple or very complicated process depending upon the metal, the desired result, and the time you wish to invest. Over a long period of time you can shape soft metals such as gold or brass with soft surfaces such as rags or your hands. To shape titanium or high carbon steel requires machinery. But lets talk about your marker which is most likely made of 6061 T6 aluminum.

"Polishing" removes little material, mostly from peaks and hard edges, and results in a very smooth surface. There are many tutorials on here about how to polish your gun (such as this). The simple break down is this: chemically remove your anodizing, very light sanding with very high grit sandpaper, very heavy buffing. Tooling required is minimal: a dremel or electric drill with the right heads can polish. You can even do it by hand if you're patient enough.

"heavy sanding" can remove as much material as you're willing to work off. Simply use heavier grit sand paper to remove material from wherever you wish. Again the tools are simple but the time invested can be extensive depending on how much you want to remove. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to do this, experiment with varying grits of sand paper (preferably on something else) until you can remove exactly how much you want to. Increase the grit as you go along to smooth your surface. Typically a heavy sanding is followed by polishing as the results aren't very pretty. The problem with sanding is that it is only as accurate as you are. You're shape will be irregular and asymmetric. Many people like that look, I personally do not but, it's entirely up to you.

Finally comes milling. Milling has the advantage of precision, you can remove exact amounts of material, from exact spots, and change your marker into an exact shape. Milling is expensive and requires complicated machines. People spend many years learning how to use a mill. This is the method I most prefer but I have the advantage of access to mills and years of practice, it is certainly not for a beginner unless you have a friend who can do it.
Us mechanical engineers...

I milled the everloving crud out of a Triton II body out of boredom and the desire to have something one-of-a-kind and it turned out pretty well. I would recommend using something with at least a small amount of precision. I was able to do some basic, rough milling with just a large drillpress and an X-Y cross-slide vise on the table and with some 2000 grit sandpaper I polished it out nicely.

You can do it with a Dremel tool or a file, however it will take forever and a day and will be very imprecise. Can you do it? Absolutely. Should you do it? Think hard about that one.
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You want to take the ridges out and make it smooth? Like the Victus?
Nope, I am shaving the sharp edges on the grip frame and shaved down the asa, turned out GREAT. The body is off to SuperStanchyCustoms for a special plan I have
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Us mechanical engineers... I milled the everloving crud out of a Triton II body out of boredom and the desire to have something one-of-a-kind and it turned out pretty well. I would recommend using something with at least a small amount of precision. I was able to do some basic, rough milling with just a large drillpress and an X-Y cross-slide vise on the table and with some 2000 grit sandpaper I polished it out nicely. You can do it with a Dremel tool or a file, however it will take forever and a day and will be very imprecise. Can you do it? Absolutely. Should you do it? Think hard about that one. Noah
I used the Dremel a bit, and a sander but mainly sanding. It's perfect
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Post up pics when its done. Looking forward to the end product.
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You took a dremel and sandpaper to a Bob Long?
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Some guy took an engraving tool to an Ego. To each their own (but the result better dang be worth it)
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Don't worry it turned out fine
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These pics are after the grip frame and asa were polished. And the body was done by stanchy customs.
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I love how this thread started with a lot of skepticism when we heard dremal/sandpaper and bob long in the same sentence. Now seeing some pics, I must admit, it looks good.
I thought this would be a Frankie-First-Try project that ended horribly wrong. Better go shoot a crow for dinner.
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I love how this thread started with a lot of skepticism when we heard dremal/sandpaper and bob long in the same sentence. Now seeing some pics, I must admit, it looks good. I thought this would be a Frankie-First-Try project that ended horribly wrong. Better go shoot a crow for dinner.
lol the body wasn't me but the grip and asa are all me -the polishing part
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