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Old 11-30-2011, 08:19 PM #1
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Epiphany or Ion

Hey guys, I'm looking back to get into paintballing.
I've found two guns, an Ion and an Epiphany.
I can get the Ion for About 75$ cheaper then the Epiphany.
Which do you say I should go for. Now I haven't played speedball
and am wondering which would go better for an introduction to speedball.
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Old 11-30-2011, 09:45 PM #2
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An epiphany is an upgraded ion it comes stock with what you would or could upgrade on an ion. It has a metal body and a slightly lighter frame, the can has inserts but that's about it
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:51 PM #3
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Epiphany, like the above post stated its just a upgraded ion.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:54 PM #4
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get the epiphany over an ion
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:16 PM #5
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I have owned both guns, and both shoot really well for an entry level price range. The main difference as far as performance is the epiphany comes stock with a firebolt. It's a little more accurate. But it's heavy as ****. If you can find an upped Ion for a decent price, you're honestly better off going with the Ion. Much lighter, and the guns have the same exact circuit board, only difference is the solenoid. The epiphany solenoid is rated for higher pressures, because the epiphany runs at an opp pressure of 240-280 psi, while the Ion runs around 170-190. Depending on your setup.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:19 PM #6
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^The solenoids are the same. I have an old ion board and had to use it in my EOS, an upgraded epiphany, when I had to ship back my virtue board to get fixed and it works just the same.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:18 PM #7
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i own several ions and an epiphany. The epiphany frame is a delight, but other than that I would say go with en up'd ion.

below is my current setup. The only thing left from an epiphany on it is the frame, grips and freak barrel (and breach, but that is the same as the one on the ion).

I have gotten several (up'd) ions and an epiphany and taken the best bits and parts from different ones and this is what I have:


(just the other day I ordered a BOB body for it. after that I won't do anything to it unless it breaks)


a word of advice, the ion and epiphany frame have different size holes for their triggers (the epiphany is one size bigger, meaning that the screws from an ion trigger will not thread). Also, the firing can on the epiphany (where the inserts go) is a bit narrower than the stock ion so you can't use the orange nano bolt upgrade kit with an epiphany can.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:23 PM #8
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^The solenoids are the same.
nope.

the solenoids are not the same. The epiphany noid is built to work at a higher pressure. HOWEVER, you can mix the boards anyway you want and it will work without the inserts (but with the smallest insert a stock ion noid might break in an epiphany). THe wrapping on the noid is different to indicate if it can handle the higher pressures.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:19 AM #9
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epiphany, it's like buying the honda special edition, i owned a epiphany for my first 4 years of my paintball career, AMAZINGLY reliable. loved it , it is my back ups back up now, still fires perfect, bought it new in 2006. still take it out for woodsball every now and then ,
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:38 PM #10
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deff the epiphany man! way better looks better!
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:42 PM #11
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I always thought the epiphany was higher end than the ion
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Old 09-16-2013, 07:28 PM #12
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nope.

the solenoids are not the same. The epiphany noid is built to work at a higher pressure. HOWEVER, you can mix the boards anyway you want and it will work without the inserts (but with the smallest insert a stock ion noid might break in an epiphany). THe wrapping on the noid is different to indicate if it can handle the higher pressures.
True,the Epiphany noid IS higher pressure,I believe the Virtue has s higher rated noid also but not positive.
The epiphany was design to improve the efficiency of the Ion platform with the devolumizing inserts& higher pressure.Unless your limited to 3k files at your field or you use a small tank it isn't much of an upgrade.Better to run at lower pressure to prevent ball breaks.
I would recommend paying a little more and getting a Ion XE,the bolt out back will save you slot of time,they can be $20-50 more than a original Ion but worth it
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:49 AM #13
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The ONLY reason the Epiphanys solenoid is rated for a higher pressure is for use with solenoid inserts. The ion did not function well at lower pressures and produced a lot of inconsistencies. For those who play indoor where pressures may be required to run a little lower, this was a problem. The fire chamber inserts were a simple fix for this issues, however they would raise the pressure higher than what the stock solenoid would be able to handle.. You can check zdspb.com for more in depth explanations. Without any inserts in the epiphany it will run at the same pressure as an Ion. I like the Epiphany a lot more than the Ion. Ions are great but the trigger and frame on the Epiphany is really awesome IMO. I prefer the looks of the epiphany as well.
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Old 10-21-2013, 10:14 AM #14
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epiphany is like everyone said an upgraded ion. In my opinion i would get the ion if it is $75 cheaper. does the ion have any upgrades on it. I wouldnt pay more than 30 more for an epiphany. keep looking you can find epiphany's for 100 or less
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