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Old 10-08-2013, 02:59 PM #253
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In order to avoid any confusion, Tonton will not compete the Orlando World Cup for financial reason*.
The team is very disappointed .We have put a lot of efforts and money this year to play the PSP and we feel frustrated.
I heard Matt Marshall to speak about a possible redemption by competing in Orlando but we just did in Paris Chantilly by finishing 2nd of the event and winning the Millennium series in CPL front of teams like Art Chaos, Edmonton Impact, Houston Heat, Los Angeles Infamous, London Nexus, Polars Bears, Frankfurt Syndicate..
On the top of that we are EPBF European Champions for a 2nd time in a row and accessory French Champions as well.
Regarding the PSP sanction after the riverside incident, we took note of it but we can not accept it.
We believe we have been strongly already penalized at the event by not been able to play the Challenger final. We lost money and our spot in the pro category. We will not argue about it. We are entire responsible and we have not been professional enough and we have no excuses.
But we can not accept that the PSP is considering that “one or more members of the team willfully took the field with intention of playing the game while knowing their markers were in excess of allowable speed limits” especially the one which shoot at 352 fps.
By being myself with the tech guys and PSP officials, they admit the gun had an oring problem in the regulator Hyper 3.
PSP knew we had stock gun and no intention to cheat.
So we believe the sanction of unsportsmanlike behavior is disproportionate and we still dot not know why they took that sanction.
Furthermore, we are surprised by some post of important PSP-SMP board members/partners which wrote on forums some “bizarre” comments like :
“There was nothing wrong with any oring. I know because I was there and personally held the equipment, including the regulator assembly, and personally talked to the tech.”

“But I think the Tontons player entered the field knowing they were shooting hot because I spoke with the Tontons player and who said they entered the field knowing they were shooting hot.”
This lies generate for sure one important things .
Until these people apologizes for their lies, tontons will not compete in the PSP

Anyway, we had an incredible successful year and I take the opportunity to thanks all the players: Loic, Axel, Frank, Sebban, Karl, sushi, Seb and Pascal The coach. They are incredible players. The best guys I had the pleasure to play with the best possible spirit.
I also would like to thanks ours sponsors: DYE, Projet K, Supairball, Virtue, Safer and Xpaint
Fabrice Colombo alias Tavarez

*some sponsors did not fulfill their engagement and we are running out of cash
I respect the professional attitude of you and your teammates posts. Respect to the Tontons as they were very fun to watch.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:03 PM #254
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I am glad that the psp called the TonTons on what happened, but I feared they would not be attending cup over something like this and it happened. I personally like how the tontons play, I like watching them, but I still am edging on Rhaels side on this one. Took a lot of balls to post that from that guy on the Tontons


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Old 10-08-2013, 03:05 PM #255
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PSP and the Ton Tons to handle privately, in a mature and respectful manner.
Chris usually doesn't operate in that manner on these forums.

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Loic,

Maybe there is a bit of a language barrier, because I've gone back and read all my posts in this thread and the only things I've said are in response to posts by Nokia saying things that were just not accurate, or a general discussion with Nick on whether league sanctions are appropriate for issues where there are on-field penalties as well.

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Were you at the meeting? We're you even in the same country?

Do you have any idea at all where I was the Sunday of west coast open?

If I were you I would just stop.

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you also pretty much insinuated that you were at the meetings. when in turn your second hand information was just as valid/invalid and nokias.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:07 PM #256
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Chris, maybe you should just take your own advice and just stop.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:12 PM #257
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Chris rhael youre supposed to be representing the NCPA. regardless of who is right and wrong you are acting like a child. YAY COLLEGE BALL
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:13 PM #258
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Personally I think that it is a great shame that the TonTons are not playing at the World Cup. Like them or loathe them, they are always entertaining to watch and in my opinion would have made the event much more interesting to watch.

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Chris usually doesn't operate in that manner on these forums.



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I am glad that the psp called the TonTons on what happened, but I feared they would not be attending cup over something like this and it happened. I personally like how the tontons play, I like watching them, but I still am edging on Rhaels side on this one. Took a lot of balls to post that from that guy on the Tontons


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Old 10-08-2013, 03:28 PM #261
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Oh, Rhael is being a ****ing moron? Big shocker there. Dude is a **** stain on the face of paintball.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:37 PM #262
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Those last two posts made me lol......
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:37 PM #263
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you also pretty much insinuated that you were at the meetings. when in turn your second hand information was just as valid/invalid and nokias.
Sorry but for now the tontons said exaclly what i said..
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:46 PM #264
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Again..... You people have
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not sure what you mean by that but anyone who's been on the forums much will agree raehl doesn't handle anything professionally on this site. I feel like a public apology from him would be very appropriate at this point.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:46 PM #265
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I hope the Ton Tons come back next year and that Chris Rhael stops pretending to have any authority on these subject matters. His nonsense and childish banter over these events borders on xenophobia. Here is to wishing the Ton Tons see that they have support here in the US and that we all don't follow Rhael's terrible example
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:47 PM #266
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Well i will not pay extra fee for HD webcast then


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Sorry but for now the tontons said exaclly what i said..
Bro, were you even in the same country, bro?
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A++ thread, would read again.
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I feel this has snowballed to the point where PSP needs to put out an official statement of facts. Who chrono'd what exactly incurring which major/minor and what each tech found/didn't find in each marker.

If the TonTons didn't intend to cheat they deserve to have their name cleared on the webcast (of intent which to me is most important). Why were the guns hot? If the techs found no o-ring/reg issues after all (as stated by Chris) or the velocity spikes were otherwise intentional that should be known as well and rightfully not tolerated.

This incident happened front, center and live on Paintball Access and got substantial airtime and commentary. It needs to be definitively resolved / summarized just as publicly (and in my opinion on the same medium - Paintball Access). After all, the purpose of PB Access is to increase visibility of the sport to the world right? Stating the facts and clearing the air rather than obfuscating what happened behind the scenes at WCO will be better in the long run.
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Bro, were you even in the same country, bro?
Bro i never said i was there.. I said what happened on the field and at the meeting.. Re-read my posts..
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:04 PM #272
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Bro i never said i was there.. I said what happened on the field and at the meeting.. Re-read my posts..
lol ive read your posts, that was sarcasm.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:08 PM #273
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If the TonTons didn't intend to cheat they deserve to have their name cleared on the webcast (of intent which to me is most important). Why were the guns hot? If the techs found no o-ring/reg issues after all (as stated by Chris) or the velocity spikes were otherwise intentional that should be known as well and rightfully not tolerated.
To the best of my knowledge Chris has never said that there were no reg issues. He just said that it wasn't an o-ring.

I posted this before, but I'll do it again now. If a faulty reg was actually causing the velocity to rise, then it most likely was not a broken o-ring. That would more likely cause a leak. It was probably a scuffed regulator seat. That's a common reason for regulators to creep which in turn can certainly raise velocity.
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