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Old 10-04-2013, 12:39 PM #43
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There's no way they bailed because of the hot guns drama. That would be like Dwight Howard quitting basketball because he got ejected from in the playoffs last year (which I wish would have actually happened). The amount of time and money and effort they put into playing probably ended up being too much, especially if they weren't getting the same amount of support as before. They all have lives and families outside of paintball. They were a good team with good guys that were NOT CHEATERS and its a bummer to see them go.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:50 PM #44
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There's no way they bailed because of the hot guns drama. That would be like Dwight Howard quitting basketball because he got ejected from in the playoffs last year (which I wish would have actually happened). The amount of time and money and effort they put into playing probably ended up being too much, especially if they weren't getting the same amount of support as before. They all have lives and families outside of paintball. They were a good team with good guys that were NOT CHEATERS and its a bummer to see them go.
Really? I believe their hot guns say otherwise.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:09 PM #45
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That's a tough one.

I can say that I firmly believe that had the Ton Tons not had the hot gun incident and been playing in the Champions Pro division, they would be playing World Cup.

Hopefully some of the Ton Tons will come in here and say something to their fans. I know a lot of you are disappointed they won't be making the trip.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:19 PM #46
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Given the financial and time costs to play WC it probably didn't make much sense for them to sacrifice all that "only" to play Challengers. They probably were already reconsidering playing PSP next season due to the costs and coming to WC and not play Champions may have sealed it.

I'm curious to see if anyone bumps up to take their spot. VcK, Revo and Boom have had a lot of success in D1 but I wonder if getting the chance to play Challengers outweighs competing for the glory of being D1 season/WC champs.

I really don't think TonTons dropping has anything to do with Art Chaos jumping in next year. There are a few spots in Challengers that could be given to AC (Jesters most likely being #1).
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:23 PM #47
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I am not sure if there is time to find a qualified team to step up. Hopefully we'll hear from the PSP soon about the plan.
Maybe VCK?
Edit: just read that this has already been suggested
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:26 PM #48
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:44 PM #49
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There's no way they bailed because of the hot guns drama. That would be like Dwight Howard quitting basketball because he got ejected from in the playoffs last year (which I wish would have actually happened). The amount of time and money and effort they put into playing probably ended up being too much, especially if they weren't getting the same amount of support as before. They all have lives and families outside of paintball. They were a good team with good guys that were NOT CHEATERS and its a bummer to see them go.
I spoke to Sebban this weekend and he said that they feel they got punished to hard. No American team with hot guns ( Cep,Aftershock ) got punished so hard,and that just sucks!
He said that it feels like the old Joy time.So it looks like PSP got to scare away a really good team. I will miss seeing Tontonīs play
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I spoke to Sebban this weekend and he said that they feel they got punished to hard. No American team with hot guns ( Cep,Aftershock ) got punished so hard,and that just sucks!
He said that it feels like the old Joy time.So it looks like PSP got to scare away a really good team. I will miss seeing Tontonīs play
Riiiiighht and it had nothing to do with the intent to go on the field with faulty equipment as they admitted to after the fact.
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Riiiiighht and it had nothing to do with the intent to go on the field with faulty equipment as they admitted to after the fact.
CEP Shooting 405?? Aftershock had hot guns?? I dont see you hanging them?
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:16 PM #54
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A lot of keyboard soldiers in here. Like others said there are a lot of other teams that have been found using hot guns. TonTons are probably right in thinking it is kinda like the old Joy Division bull.

Yeah they deserved punishment for that whole deal but the punishment was a bit bias and over the top.

We should be trying to keep these teams around not run them back over seas.

I have not heard any examples of this kinda treatment of us teams in Millennium this year. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:19 PM #55
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:23 PM #57
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oh, they cheat, get caught, then don't come back....

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Im sure there is a very good reason for it, Ton Tons arent gonna up and quit over trivial bs no matter what all the wannabe pros on pbn say.
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That's a tough one.

I can say that I firmly believe that had the Ton Tons not had the hot gun incident and been playing in the Champions Pro division, they would be playing World Cup.

Hopefully some of the Ton Tons will come in here and say something to their fans. I know a lot of you are disappointed they won't be making the trip.
This, I was shocked to see this thread when I got on nation today not gonna lie
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There is so much nationalistic, retarded bull**** in this thread it makes me even more embarrassed than I was before to say that I play tournament paintball.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:32 PM #61
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very surprising. maybe they feel as though if they played WC that all teams and even some refs would be out to get them. They have had a reputation for shooting hot for years but were never caught/penalized like this in the past. Maybe they don't see it as being worth it to play with such a big target on their backs.
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Riiiiighht and it had nothing to do with the intent to go on the field with faulty equipment as they admitted to after the fact.
Hmm... So we are just going to ignore all of the cheating with intent from American teams? Sounds like we have a real scholar right here. Even when U.S. Teams play over seas get gun penalties at tournaments this never happens. Dynast in Germany 2k4 ring a bell to anyone for gun penalties on a U.S. team where they were not hammered harshly as the TONTON's are now.

The biggest issue foreign teams face here is the bias against them and now we go and make it harder for each team from overseas to get fair treatment.

London Tigers complained of biased reffing, so did Joy, and now TONTON.
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