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Old 09-06-2013, 11:29 PM #190
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I also remember back when the new home page came out i said it was just another way for pbn to sell advertisement blocks on the front page. They assured us all that wasnt going to happen.
Link to where that happened? I don't think Kyle or I said anything of the sort. Some bookend advertisements on the homepage was always part of the plan. However, Kyle has always been against it for the forum itself.


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wish they would listen more to the users on the little things like adding some color to a color scheme
Mock up what you are thinking. If everyone loves it, it will certainly be a consideration. But right now, we've actually seen lots of acceptance and actually very little complaining.


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If you think that's just mine, then you've made it very clear you've ignored this entire thread.
Not at all. We appreciate all the positive comments. We know that some people (like you) won't be happy, but most will survive. We expect certain people (like you) to be negative about everything. Unfortunately, it just means their opinions aren't taken seriously.


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surely all of the posts in this thread speak for a large majority of the users who like myself logged in today to be unpleasantly surprised.
Part of the problem with these discussions is that people assume their position is the majority because they saw a couple people agreeing with them. Less than 100 people even commenting does not constitute a majority of the site agreeing with you, especially since quite a few are positive about it.

Give it a month. Most the people who complained 6 weeks ago have stopped complaining. You may well get used to it as well. I personally got used to it and I think most other people will too.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:45 PM #191
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BS.

Make a fool out of everyone then and make a poll.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:48 PM #192
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So you can continue to be negative and make up some bogus claim we rigged it? Pass. We don't make polls like that and never have. And we certainly aren't going to start now.

Like I said, some people like yourself will try their best to be negative about everything.

We'll see if this "majority" of people are still complaining in a month. That will be the true test.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:51 PM #193
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I've used grey since day one, you're taking it away, you're taking away the colors that you claim only %3 use. I see an abundance of people saying they use the dark themes.

Now any of those people are just being negative about anything?

Make a poll.. or make more accusations.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:56 PM #194
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No, I was singling you out about trying to be negative just for the sake of it. Not anyone else. Just you. You've posted 12 times in this thread already. You alone are about 10% of the negativity in this thread. So its time to stop. Don't post in this thread anymore.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:04 AM #195
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Link to where that happened? I don't think Kyle or I said anything of the sort. Some bookend advertisements on the homepage was always part of the plan. However, Kyle has always been against it for the forum itself.
I'm fairly certain that it was in the "check out our new homepage" thread. I remember it coming up.

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Give it a month. Most the people who complained 6 weeks ago have stopped complaining. You may well get used to it as well. I personally got used to it and I think most other people will too.
People found ways around the new homepage, by changing bookmark locations, if that's what you're referring to.

I may get used to the new format, but I'll never claim to like it as it currently stands. But you know my issues with it, John. I've talked about it with you as well as voiced them in this thread. They seem to have fallen upon deaf ears, though
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:07 AM #196
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I'm fairly certain that it was in the "check out our new homepage" thread. I remember it coming up.
Find it. I don't think that happened. If it did, I might owe that person an apology because that was the plan for the homepage.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:22 AM #197
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Is there a specific reason why your taking all the color schemes away? Honestly, are they costing you tons of money? or just taking them off for the sake of doing so? Everyone has their personal preference, and i just dont understand why youre taking something away that has been there as an option since i can remember (ive been here longer than 2k6) at the vary least, please keep a couple dark options. White screens kill my eyes.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:31 AM #198
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post 183 in this thread brings it up. In post 222, you do mention that users will never be able to pay, in order to get a thread posted on the front page (that's not what this is about, but it's worth mentioning.)
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...light=homepage

I can't find it, but I know I saw either you or kyle say that the front page was not created for extra adds, and that whoever wrote it didn't like adds, either. It's 1:30 am, and I'm going to bed. Tomorrow I'll try to dig a little bit deeper into it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:33 AM #199
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WHHHAAAAAAATTT!?!

change to my homepage?



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hmm
the layout isnt that bad. the boss doesn't recognize it as non work related.
blends in with the job applications and looks killer on the ubuntu desktop.


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Old 09-07-2013, 12:34 AM #200
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I know I saw either you or kyle say that...
Again, I don't think Kyle or I ever said that we wouldn't do the bookend style ads. Let me know if you find anything that says otherwise.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:35 AM #201
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Part of the problem with these discussions is that people assume their position is the majority because they saw a couple people agreeing with them. Less than 100 people even commenting does not constitute a majority of the site agreeing with you, especially since quite a few are positive about it.

Give it a month. Most the people who complained 6 weeks ago have stopped complaining. You may well get used to it as well. I personally got used to it and I think most other people will too.
"Majority" may have been the wrong term, forgive me. What I'm trying to get across is that there appears to be a adequate number of users both new and old alike that are disappointed with this unannounced change. Furthermore, you show no sympathy or any form of compensation for your supporting members.

Maybe I just need a hug.

Edit: I think I've said enough. I'll stop spamming this thread.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:39 AM #202
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Regardless of what mindless nonsense I may have messaged you on Facebook, John - I like the new center fixed width. I feel like I am on one of the websites I have designed.

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Is there a specific reason why your taking all the color schemes away? Honestly, are they costing you tons of money? or just taking them off for the sake of doing so? Everyone has their personal preference, and i just dont understand why youre taking something away that has been there as an option since i can remember (ive been here longer than 2k6) at the vary least, please keep a couple dark options. White screens kill my eyes.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:21 AM #205
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Can we get the original blue in a wide theme without the triangular wannabe camp crap? Just the old blue that fills my monitor and plain BG?
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Can we get the original blue in a wide theme without the triangular wannabe camp crap? Just the old blue that fills my monitor and plain BG?
I agree. I have used the original blue since I been here. This new fufu crap is not for me
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Find it. I don't think that happened. If it did, I might owe that person an apology because that was the plan for the homepage.
Apparently what I was referring to was your post very early on in this thread about the margins of the non-fluid version. Funny what a little bit of sleep can do for me.

But if you do start putting adds in those margins, now I know where to go to find it

now for some constructive criticism:
They're just not as functional as the old format was. It's harder to tell what posts have been read, user names look different and I have a hard time recognizing people(it's a new font, maybe?), there's not enough contrast between quoted and non quoted test, the background triangles are tacky, and should be changed to a solid color, and the buttons up top have been moved around as well.

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What I'm trying to get across is that there appears to be a adequate number of users both new and old alike that are disappointed with this unannounced change. Furthermore, you show no sympathy or any form of compensation for your supporting members.

Maybe I just need a hug.
There will always be users who don't like any change on the site. Or lack of change. Or that we don't change enough. That's what happens with any large group. And we "announced" this 6 weeks ago! Look at the first couple pages of the thread for when we announced it and for what the ASM's thought.

Kyle is in charge of hugs. You might need to make an appointment though.


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Is there a specific reason why your taking all the color schemes away?
Themes actually take time and effort to maintain. You have to realize, Kyle is the only person working on the site that does that kind of work. And PbN is far from the only site he maintains. Sometimes something has to give.


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Regardless of what mindless nonsense I may have messaged you on Facebook, John - I like the new center fixed width. I feel like I am on one of the websites I have designed.
Lots of people have a knee jerk reaction to change. That's why we tell people to take deep breath and give us suggestions after a month or so. You just got used it it overnight. Thanks and glad you like it.


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Apparently what I was referring to was your post very early on in this thread about the margins of the non-fluid version.
Yup, figured it was something you weren't remembering right. Thanks for taking the time to look.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:53 AM #209
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Link to where that happened? I don't think Kyle or I said anything of the sort. Some bookend advertisements on the homepage was always part of the plan. However, Kyle has always been against it for the forum itself.




Mock up what you are thinking. If everyone loves it, it will certainly be a consideration. But right now, we've actually seen lots of acceptance and actually very little complaining.
John not that it matters but it was you who said that the front squares (for the threads) wouldnt be used for advertising space. But it is what it is. The home page looks nice. Its not worth the time to go look for it since it doesnt change anything. Im not an ASM. I dont pay money to be on here and I know its not free to run the site so we have to take the good with the bad. You guys need the money coming in to run the site to keep it free for everyone else. The front page took a little getting use to how when I hit the pbnation logo it sent me back there and not to the forums like I was use to but all in all I think it makes the site looks better and more professional and does give other threads more views that they wouldnt get if you guys didnt make that change.

as for the mock up...john I dont think you want me to mock something up lol my ms paint skills arent up to par Ill see what I can do. Right now im just using the matte blue. I like how the grey one you guys did is dark but it would be nice to add a splash of color like where the matte blue is (any color would spice it up) idk how to explain it. maybe take the color of the matte blue and the rest from the grey? idk if that helps lol

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John not that it matters but it was you who said that the front squares (for the threads) wouldnt be used for advertising space.
I believe it was Kyle that said it, and he said it for the Forums, not the home page. I remember reading it.
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