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Old 08-18-2013, 09:26 PM #148
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:38 PM #149
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That thing shoots REMARKABLY straight
To bad shooting straight has nothing to do with the gun.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:48 PM #150
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To bad shooting straight has nothing to do with the gun.
Barrel honing and quality is part of the gun correct?
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:57 PM #151
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Barrel honing and quality is part of the gun correct?
It's certainly part of the barrel
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:02 PM #152
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What's up with everyone wanting to be d-bags. The barrel is nice to be stock..yes. No I doesn't affect how the gun works. Yes its still a stbb. Yes we understand you don't think its worth $300. We know you think used egos will blow it out of the water. Quit beating a dead horse. And quit trying to treat everyone else like ****. Your point has been received.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:07 PM #153
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I would rather see a new player with this than a old DM that the new player cant keep working because of lack of experience when it comes to taking care of a high end.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:11 PM #154
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:14 PM #155
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It's certainly part of the barrel
Which is part of the gun? It IS the stock barrel
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The ZII is the pinnacle of design and performance for the stack tube blow-back platform.

When the ZII was developed, we focused our efforts on improving its operation and performance.

The result was the creation of the Zen OLED board and the ZeRO-D system.

The Zen OLED board is the conscious of the ZII and is the first user programmable board on an Azodin marker. The board features new logic which helps to prolong battery life and decrease voltage requirements.

The ZeRO-D system is the soul of the ZII and threads directly onto the body. The new design improves the durability of the ZeRO Housing and it allows for quicker maintenance of the ZeRO-D System. When paired with the Mass Flow Valve, the ZerRO-D lowers the operating pressure of the ZII.

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Old 08-19-2013, 10:12 AM #157
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Hmmm we will have to call and see when we can get some in.
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Hmmm we will have to call and see when we can get some in.
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What's up with everyone wanting to be d-bags. The barrel is nice to be stock..yes. No I doesn't affect how the gun works. Yes its still a stbb. Yes we understand you don't think its worth $300. We know you think used egos will blow it out of the water. Quit beating a dead horse. And quit trying to treat everyone else like ****. Your point has been received.
So fans are allowed to state endless opinion about a marker but critics should shut up and leave? Seems like a fair balance. Paintball has been plagued with hype for years. Having a new spin on an old design doesn't make this a competitor. Nothing that's been stated about this design puts it on a functionally new level from past markers. But now we are supposed to believe its the equal to, or superior to the other established EP options in the same price range? It's a hard sell to those that have been through the STBB days. Even the balanced valve guns had more kick than the most basic of EP marker. They also cant shoot through a hiccup. That's a huge point to people that are competitive, one which fans never address. I'd like to be wrong, but an adjustable valve spring, high flow valve, high flow bolt, and a tuned main spring don't equate to EP performance. It's not bad, and when there weren't options in the $300-$500 range I'd be all for it. Today's midrange market is devastatingly competitive. I think they priced themselves out of the market. A $225 shelf price version with an LED board would be a different story. I've never been a fan of buying a highly featured low end product at a similar price to a modestly featured mid end product, paintball or otherwise. Seems a bit backwards.

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Which is part of the gun? It IS the stock barrel
Its a misleading point. I'd consider the barrel an accessory personally, but it is a stock one at that. I've never been one to worry much about a stock barrel, though it would be a consideration to someone buying a first marker.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:35 AM #160
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So fans are allowed to state endless opinion about a marker but critics should shut up and leave? Seems like a fair balance. Paintball has been plagued with hype for years. Having a new spin on an old design doesn't make this a competitor. Nothing that's been stated about this design puts it on a functionally new level from past markers. But now we are supposed to believe its the equal to, or superior to the other established EP options in the same price range? It's a hard sell to those that have been through the STBB days. Even the balanced valve guns had more kick than the most basic of EP marker. They also cant shoot through a hiccup. That's a huge point to people that are competitive, one which fans never address. I'd like to be wrong, but an adjustable valve spring, high flow valve, high flow bolt, and a tuned main spring don't equate to EP performance. It's not bad, and when there weren't options in the $300-$500 range I'd be all for it. Today's midrange market is devastatingly competitive. I think they priced themselves out of the market. A $225 shelf price version with an LED board would be a different story. I've never been a fan of buying a highly featured low end product at a similar price to a modestly featured mid end product, paintball or otherwise. Seems a bit backwards.



Its a misleading point. I'd consider the barrel an accessory personally, but it is a stock one at that. I've never been one to worry much about a stock barrel, though it would be a consideration to someone buying a first marker.
I never said go away, just no reason for fans nor critics to be dicks to each other.
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What's up with everyone wanting to be d-bags.
You mistake differing opinions and critical questions for hostility? In the words of Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." If the gun is truly as great as you claim it to be, then it doesn't matter what people think, the gun will hold its own. However, as many of us suspect, this gun will not be revolutionary other than the fact it's got some fancy wrapping on a slightly improved STBB core. The fact that you decide to label any other opinions as bad or inflammatory is probably turning more people away than your glowing praise for the gun.
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Whoah guys - relax!

Anyone who brings out a marker for this price with these features is good in my book. You'll get a warranty too.
Sure, it won't be up to every ones taste, but at least it is another step towards newbies getting a decent marker for them to get into the game.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:06 AM #163
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Whoah guys - relax!

Anyone who brings out a marker for this price with these features is good in my book. You'll get a warranty too.
Sure, it won't be up to every ones taste, but at least it is another step towards newbies getting a decent marker for them to get into the game.
This.

I'm not even going to lie, to a newer player I'd suggest this over an Ego5/6/7. If something ****s up, warranty. If they put something back together wrong it's easier to find help for something damn near everyone has owned at one point. If it's decent enough to last them a couple years, or even sit in their gearbag as a backup when their Luxe is running like **** all day or their Egos solenoid fails, then it was a worthwhile purchase.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:43 AM #164
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You mistake differing opinions and critical questions for hostility? In the words of Shakespeare, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." If the gun is truly as great as you claim it to be, then it doesn't matter what people think, the gun will hold its own. However, as many of us suspect, this gun will not be revolutionary other than the fact it's got some fancy wrapping on a slightly improved STBB core. The fact that you decide to label any other opinions as bad or inflammatory is probably turning more people away than your glowing praise for the gun.
Oh by no means, You can have your own opinion about things just come off like a dick.

Smalltown hasn't flamed anybody nor been dick-ish to anybody.


Its kinda like a Jehovah's Witnesses which will knock on your door, probably knows your bible better than you do and tries to convert you over, however he is a dick in the way he tells you you're wrong so you tell him to **** off.
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i'm digging it! Great job Azodin. I have never once considered buying one until now. Price is on point and if it deems reliable...it's a great bargin. Only time with tell.
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