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Old 08-08-2013, 06:24 PM #1
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New gun from Alien paintball: Deception





Introducing the 2014 Alien Deception!



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Most recent rendering. Foregrip is a little bit thicker to expand the volume. We brought in the front piece a bit to run flat with the rest of the grip and there have been some slight changes to the regulator/onoff.


Update on the guns.
For a quick comparison the reciprocating mass of the rammer in the Independence was 1.3 oz
This year in the deception there is only 0.2 oz of material moving back and forth with each shot. This will lead to a much calmer shot than what was found with the Independence and Invasion series of guns which are already widely known for being very soft shooters.

The $1095 guns will be including OLED board, a carbon fiber barrel that accepts freak inserts, 4 inserts, 1 oz of "Alien Slime" lubricant, a nice case and some other goodies. These guns will be available in any color combination found in the rendering software.

the $899 value guns will come with an LED board, an alien gun wrap like previous alien guns, a 2 piece barrel and will only be available in dust black.


Shipping date: the GOAL *not solid but best current estimate* is to be able to ship out guns within a couple weeks of extravaganza, around mid march.

And because this topic refuses to die: I did speak to Jack again about this "is this the same gun as x" again and no, these guns are not similar to other guns coming out.
















We have the finished gun together now, but waiting for grip panels.
No grip panels and no battery 1lb 7.5 oz - yes, really
And it's solid. Not going to break or snap anything if you take a core sample. Going to be just a rugged as anything else that alien has made.

We have more and more specifics coming in all the time, so more updates soon!

The Deception has an entirely new style of valving system and is not another "version" of anything seen before. The new valve is a “little of a poppet” and a “little of a spool” and a “little of neither one”. It’s a "Morf" valve that uses lower pressure, so the gun will have a much calmer shot and has a slimmer body previous Alien guns. This new "Morf" valve will utilize variable air that is released upon firing to be gentle on paint.

The Deception is double stacked gun that uses the new "Morf" valve allowing us to lower the body profile while keeping it slimmer than spool valve guns. I made sure to ask about the input pressure of the Deception and great news, the gun will shoot great on SLP or high pressure.

The Deception is powered by APE's customized "Hyper Drive" board, giving the user total control.

The Deception is fully milled with no expenses spared making this gun look incredible. Jack has been excited to say that “this is the best looking gun I have ever seen.”

Although this is a completely new gun, Jack has been working on this since before I met him in 2011. He told me at the Las Vegas event that he "Almost didnt release the invasion" because of his passion for this gun. So this will be a well tested and polished release.



When I asked about the name, Jack mentioned that because the gun is a stacked tube, it is a bit of a deception because it isn’t a poppet. He then brought out his copy of Sun Tzu’s Art of war and quoted “all war is deception.”


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Old 08-08-2013, 06:38 PM #2
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I heard about this recently (won't say from who to keep them from getting in possible trouble)

Always liked Alien markers. Definitely an underrated company.
Jack's constant presence on here is definitely a welcome one. Makes CS pretty efficient.
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someone knew about this before I did? and I felt so special haha.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:41 PM #4
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I cant wait, Aliens are the best markers on the market.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:42 PM #5
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Not really a poppet or spool... Sounds interesting.
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someone knew about this before I did? and I felt so special haha.
Lol no. He gave you credit. Said you told him and he told me.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:43 PM #7
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Not really a poppet or spool... Sounds interesting.
When I read this, I wasn't sure what to expect. I'm still not sure what I expect.
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Slimmer? Damn, I've always thought Aliens to be pretty sleek as is. I'm honestly even more excited for this marker now than the J4 even after all the hype the j4's built up.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:02 PM #10
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When I read this, I wasn't sure what to expect. I'm still not sure what I expect.
Im in the same boat, but Jack has been excited about the valve since 2011 so i trust it to be worthy of the Alien name lol.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:05 PM #11
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My favorite marker in all of my gun whoring was a 2011 Independence, so to say I'm a little excited would be an understatement, even though I haven't played for the past two years.

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Old 08-08-2013, 07:27 PM #12
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It will be interesting to see the comparisons between this and the Torque. They sound kinda similar, stacked-tubes that aren't poppets.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:29 PM #13
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I will take one in dust black.

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It will be interesting to see the comparisons between this and the Torque. They sound kinda similar, stacked-tubes that aren't poppets.
When I read the article, the first thing that came to mind was the Torque with all of the 'its not really a poppet or spool' talk. They're probably going to get compared quite a bit.
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