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Old 04-27-2013, 08:19 PM #1114
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I agree with them J4 trying to make it right the first time.

We don't want another Zodaic/Vapor situation.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:32 PM #1118
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:48 PM #1119
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Now that I've watched the video I'm intrigued!!

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I agree with them J4 trying to make it right the first time.

We don't want another Zodaic/Vapor situation.
And not to change the subject here but what's the zodiac/vapor "situation? I was contemplating picking a zr1 up.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:51 PM #1120
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Now that I've watched the video I'm intrigued!!



And not to change the subject here but what's the zodiac/vapor "situation? I was contemplating picking a zr1 up.
The owner of Machine/Zodiac is shifty. Ripped off a lot of markers from companies he was working for... had them made is somewhere like Taiwan... something like that.

Just search these forums for Mike Spurlock.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:00 PM #1121
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Mike Spurlock was in no way or form an owner of Zodiac actually.

He was suppose to make the Zodiac for the former owner of the Quest. He screwed some stuff up. Then since he had the cad for the shocker and the ZR1 came out with the Vapor, which when you take it apart you can really see the DNA, in fact since I had some of the CAD you can see where he just merged them.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:03 PM #1122
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:05 PM #1123
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Mike Spurlock was in no way or form an owner of Zodiac actually.

He was suppose to make the Zodiac for the former owner of the Quest. He screwed some stuff up. Then since he had the cad for the shocker and the ZR1 came out with the Vapor, which when you take it apart you can really see the DNA, in fact since I had some of the CAD you can see where he just merged them.
Thanks for clearing it up
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Mike Spurlock was in no way or form an owner of Zodiac actually.

He was suppose to make the Zodiac for the former owner of the Quest. He screwed some stuff up. Then since he had the cad for the shocker and the ZR1 came out with the Vapor, which when you take it apart you can really see the DNA, in fact since I had some of the CAD you can see where he just merged them.
Actually I believe it was the Luxe not the Shocker, but they share quite a bit even apart from the bolt kit. Spurlock owns the facility in Taiwan where the ZR1 was initially made, which is how he got in the middle of this.
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The owner of Machine/Zodiac is shifty. Ripped off a lot of markers from companies he was working for... had them made is somewhere like Taiwan... something like that.

Just search these forums for Mike Spurlock.
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Mike Spurlock was in no way or form an owner of Zodiac actually.

He was suppose to make the Zodiac for the former owner of the Quest. He screwed some stuff up. Then since he had the cad for the shocker and the ZR1 came out with the Vapor, which when you take it apart you can really see the DNA, in fact since I had some of the CAD you can see where he just merged them.
I see, well hopefully as before mentioned j4 doesn't go down that road. The guy doing the video demonstration seemed a bit nervous but I for the product itself, I'd deff like a hands on and try out.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:51 PM #1126
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Your right - though he had CAD for all of SP guns, and that is part of the reason the SP Impulse frame ended up on the Alien and another gun, at least in the promo shots.

Shooting video as soon as they get here. The new externals look really decent.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:50 PM #1127
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I think we have had enough of that this year...
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:26 AM #1129
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