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Old 04-17-2013, 03:46 AM #22
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Pretty sure it's a full shell replacement
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:21 AM #23
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And why can't we have a lower capacity kit? Something like less than 140?
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:53 AM #24
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looks huge to me. in a couple of years or so the loaders are going to have 2000 balls capacity, no need to carry pods any more for the back players
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:16 AM #25
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My Spire can hold just over 500 .50cal paintballs... my god wonder how much this one will hold!
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:17 AM #26
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LOL nothing wrong with .50cal

I use it at UWL in the UK as the fills are 3000psi - so on a 2800psi fill, I am getting over 1400+ shots off of it... with a hopper and 2 pods
With my Axe, i'd get 900ish shots off the same setup.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:11 AM #27
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This will probably help with the "ball stack" issue when loading pods.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:00 AM #28
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My problem with these extra capacity loader kits is when are you going to actually fill it except for the start of the game? it looks interesting, dont get me wrong but i dont think id get one.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:06 AM #29
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My problem with these extra capacity loader kits is when are you going to actually fill it except for the start of the game? it looks interesting, dont get me wrong but i dont think id get one.
That's the point, it's for back players so that their lane off the break can last longer without either stopping or shooting one-handed while loading. After that, I guess it's a disadvantage since it's a larger profile you're exposing, so it's a trade off.
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Any idea how much more balls it can hold?
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And why can't we have a lower capacity kit? Something like less than 140?
Because only people that would buy it is pumpers but most pumpers want even less capacity than that.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:18 AM #32
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Because only people that would buy it is pumpers but most pumpers want even less capacity than that.
Not speaking to all but most of "us" want something 50-100 that is force fed or agitated, however I'd settle for a 140. The old VL Tripods had a 140 shell but those are nearly impossible to find. Besides pumpers, you had milsim players, light and tight guys, .50 cal players and players that just want a light small loader because they don't shoot alot. I've contacted Virtue and several other companies who don't want part of this. The market isn't huge but producing a loader about that size would mean you'd be the only company to fill that niche. Not to mention you don't have to create a whole new loader, just shell kits that accept current loader internals.

However we get by with sport shots and hybrid loaders by combining two different loaders. Maybe I should start a petition so a company realizes the possible market. With several companies releasing pump markers, CCI and CCM running strong its just a matter of time.

But I do see what you mean Jers.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:24 AM #33
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looks almost exactly like the high cap rotor...
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Not speaking to all but most of "us" want something 50-100 that is force fed or agitated, however I'd settle for a 140. The old VL Tripods had a 140 shell but those are nearly impossible to find. Besides pumpers, you had milsim players, light and tight guys, .50 cal players and players that just want a light small loader because they don't shoot alot. I've contacted Virtue and several other companies who don't want part of this. The market isn't huge but producing a loader about that size would mean you'd be the only company to fill that niche. Not to mention you don't have to create a whole new loader, just shell kits that accept current loader internals.

However we get by with sport shots and hybrid loaders by combining two different loaders. Maybe I should start a petition so a company realizes the possible market. With several companies releasing pump markers, CCI and CCM running strong its just a matter of time.

But I do see what you mean Jers.


Maybe you should try your hand at designing a loader, then you'd have that corner of the market all to yourself!
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Maybe you should try your hand at designing a loader, then you'd have that corner of the market all to yourself!
Trust me. If I had a good desktop, programs vacuum table and 3D printer I would. However a large company like KEE, DYE, Kingman or Tippmann could do it fairly easily with their resources.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:16 AM #36
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Well, john.. you caught us... and foiled our "guess the new product contest" that we were going to have soon, since there's actually tons of pictures in our galleries of players using these prototypes dating back to world cup!








This was also the real best kept secret from the extravaganza, since it was hidden in plain site on the wall of loaders we had! (only 1 dealer noticed..)

Heres a picture from our friends from Paint Supply in Germany. When they asked to take a picture, Chris grabbed it off the wall and put it in my hands!


But here's what I can tell you guys. We are still in the final testing stages and getting feeback from several pros and divisional players who are using these.

This product isn't a huge loader for back players. It holds 260 rounds, but is still smaller then a stock Rotor.

While several great back players like Dave Baines, Corey Field, and Nick Slowiak have been using these, front players like Greg Siewers, and Justin Rabakoff are also preferring it. Conversely Chad George, Kirill Prikhidni, and Alexander Berdnikov, who are some of the top front, mid, and back players all prefer their current size Spires.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:49 AM #37
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This product isn't a huge loader for back players. It holds 260 rounds, but is still smaller then a stock Rotor.

Mike or Pete, if you are reading this....



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I like the look better "rounder" larger capacity is still awesome, really hope these are shell upgrades at a decent price point
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Coool but how much paint will it hold ? 300 ?
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I may have seen one at Cup, but we weren't trying to out anyone or get them in trouble. There were LV1's being tested at Cup too.

I completely missed it at Extravaganza though! Damn.
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Did you even read Mike's post just a few above yours....
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