Boss/Lurker Hybrid Bolt (The Blurker!)

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 08-29-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chowser2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlTBWImPq_Q

I ended up using about 10.5 pods

the bolt reduces how fast the bolt initially move forward and really seems to smooth out the marker.

the axe was on 10bps ramping

You'll get more consistent fps readings with an underbore barrel, FYI.

VERY quiet shot.

chowser2 · 08-29-2012, 09:21 PM

I habe lurker barrels for underbore.
However the paint I was using was a mix of paint that was .693 6 months ago, amd paint from supergame that seems to measure around 689. So I figured just run stock barrel to be safe. I ran my lurker barrel678 for part ofsupergame and it was terrible with that paint

mfarmy · 10-19-2012, 06:57 PM

just wondering what infamous orings did you guys use? I bought the oring kit and got 2 big orings and 2 small and 1 of the small is stiffer (probably the shock oring)

I did my set up one big on the back replacing the lurker oring and the shock oring following by the spacer. Is that right?

the stock and long boss spring cycle but they shoot then puff then shoot then puff, the short and medium spring though do cycle fully.

dwell - 5.5ms
pressure - 160psi
back cap - around .8-1 turn out

Vdubs (Banned) · 11-23-2012, 09:31 AM

Is this the proper setup? I have the stock front bolt "condom" on the Lurker bolt then it is the delrin spacer and then o-ring. Some pics I have seen have have not used the stock bolt "condom" tip and used an o-ring instead. I am just wondering what the most proper install is.

With stock "condom" installed on tip

With o-ring installed on tip

Ty29 · 11-23-2012, 11:36 AM

Mfarmy you should try backing out your back cap to 1.5 turns out and see if the gun cycles consistently with the long spring.

Vdubs (Banned) · 11-23-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Teahouser

hey guys,

shot the dual oring cushion system today, super smooth.

280-285fps
160psi
5.5 open dwell
5 closing dwell
back cap 1.25 turns out

no chops/barrel breaks all day, shooting g.i. 3 star.

I just received a new replacement Shockwave board from Kee for my Invert Mini and I was wondering if all the settings stay stock besides the ones mentioned? Also, there is only 1 dwell setting that I see but I noticed that you have open and close dwell. Please help me out and I thank anyone for their time!

My setup is pictured above with the stock spring and bolt nipple cover

mfarmy · 11-23-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty29

Mfarmy you should try backing out your back cap to 1.5 turns out and see if the gun cycles consistently with the long spring.

I did everything and it was at 1.5 turns out, wouldn't chrono to 280 unless it was around 180psi, I kinda gave up on the whole set up haha

Ty29 · 11-23-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mfarmy

I did everything and it was at 1.5 turns out, wouldn't chrono to 280 unless it was around 180psi, I kinda gave up on the whole set up haha

Oh I saw the .8-1 and wasn't sure! As long as it works now!

SNAKESNIPER (Banned) · 11-23-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mfarmy

I did everything and it was at 1.5 turns out, wouldn't chrono to 280 unless it was around 180psi, I kinda gave up on the whole set up haha

It doesn't really matter how high the PSI is, because the Boss shock o-ring and spacer combined with the o-ring on the Lurker spacer will soften the force of the kick more than a regular Boss or Lurker setup on their own. I shoot at around 160PSI, but it feels like 120 because of all the shock absorption stuff.

My setup:
-bolt guide o-rings: Boss Infamous 2 x 015, 1 x 012 closest to the spacer
- .8 turns out
-160PSI
-4ms dwell
-280FPS; +/- 3 to 5 FPS at the chrono and QUIET as hell, more of a "puff" than a "pop".

mfarmy · 11-23-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty29

Oh I saw the .8-1 and wasn't sure! As long as it works now!

O haha ya that was my first try with the set up before cup

panitballTommy · 11-25-2012, 11:48 AM

Just picked up a well broken in axe and just ordered a lurker bolt. I see that many people use different variations to get their lurker bolt working properly, as a new axe owner should I attempt the "lurker installation" before I try messing with the orings? Has any one had a problem with their bolt out of the box?

Vdubs (Banned) · 11-25-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by panitballTommy

Just picked up a well broken in axe and just ordered a lurker bolt. I see that many people use different variations to get their lurker bolt working properly, as a new axe owner should I attempt the "lurker installation" before I try messing with the orings? Has any one had a problem with their bolt out of the box?

I have tried both ways. I got mine from the package and tried it with the additional o-rings and small white delrin spacer and I had bolt sticking issues. I am currently using it the regular way with the stock spring clicked onto the bolt like stock.

No one seemed to offer me help as you can see in my previous unanswered posts so I figured I would give YOU my help and let you know what seemed to work for me. If you can get other ppl to offer you help and explain what works best, go for it! GL!

liverlip · 11-25-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vdubs

I have tried both ways. I got mine from the package and tried it with the additional o-rings and small white delrin spacer and I had bolt sticking issues. I am currently using it the regular way with the stock spring clicked onto the bolt like stock.

No one seemed to offer me help as you can see in my previous unanswered posts so I figured I would give YOU my help and let you know what seemed to work for me. If you can get other ppl to offer you help and explain what works best, go for it! GL!

Haven't been here in a while. That bolt "condom" or "nipple" you refer to is the bolt face. It should be on the Lurker Bolt when installed. Check step 4 in the manual:

http://www.lurkerpb.com/manuals/minimanual.pdf

Vdubs (Banned) · 11-25-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by liverlip

Haven't been here in a while. That bolt "condom" or "nipple" you refer to is the bolt face. It should be on the Lurker Bolt when installed. Check step 4 in the manual:

http://www.lurkerpb.com/manuals/minimanual.pdf

I have used the stock bolt face. I was more concerned about the o-ring setup and the small white delrin spacer on the bolt. I tried to do it like pictured and I just had bolt sticks and chops.

blueshifty · 03-08-2013, 10:04 AM

Revive semi-dead thread!! Revive!!!

A couple things... Boss now sells the delrin spacer on his site for those that want the actual spacer and not the entire boss bolt.

Also, how do you guys keep the bumper oring seated? I can't keep the oring on the backside (next to the bolt) of the spring ridge on my bolt. It keeps popping forward.

xTheirOut2GetUx · 03-08-2013, 03:31 PM

Just curious is the white plastic ring i got with my lurker meant to achieve something similar to this?

ThexAlchemist · 03-08-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xTheirOut2GetUx

Just curious is the white plastic ring i got with my lurker meant to achieve something similar to this?

Yes, with one of the orings that came with the bolt installed behind the white ring.

BNelly13 · 03-18-2013, 05:28 PM

I have been reading up on this and it appears people are getting good results with a 14/90 oring on the inside of the spacer. Are there any 14/90 orings that are better than others? And where would be the best place to buy them?

blueshifty · 03-18-2013, 07:41 PM

I just used some cheap JT tank orings from WalMart and they work just fine.

BNelly13 · 03-18-2013, 10:07 PM

Alright well I don't think the spacer comes off when I shoot but it does rotate at the base of the bolt guide rather freely. Would tighten that up help the system work better?

Clark Gryphyn · 03-18-2013, 11:11 PM

As long as it isn't coming off, the system is working fine. Mine is quite loose as well, but it doesn't come off, and all is well.