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Old 01-09-2013, 03:12 PM #1
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Hammer 7,a pump noob review

Backyard review originally posted here with pics
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Tossed around the idea of trying some pump play recently,althought I've been playing since '95 Ive never played with a pump.My 11 yr old nephew has started playing with me and I've found myself playing at public fields more so Ive decided to challenge myself by changing my game up abit not to mention I'm his "paint sponser" and thought I could cut cost abit also.I've also been curious about a FS platform,Ive seen them in action and was very impressed

Enter the Hammer 7.FS,pump,mag or hopper fed and affordable.All in one package.Think I was sold on it at 1st glance.Now I have one and so far its lived up to my expectations in my backyard tests.This is the 1st marker i've bought new since '07 when i bought a PMR and Ions(s)and really the only marker thats caught my eye in that time

Since I'm a pump newb heres my impression
The Good
Great size and build quality,I was expecting it to be alot bigger from pics I've seen,I shot a photo to compare it with my nephews mech Ion for comparison.Im not bothered by the composite material its made of,the pump action is solid with very little play even with the barrel removed
Ball detent,easily accessed by rotating the barrel.A big +,seems rollouts on old pumps were common
Mags have a nice feel,didnt find it to be loose or tight fitting.I tried to dislodge paint out of the mag when off the gun by hitting it againts my hand,balls stayed firmly in their place dispite my efforts.I also test fit an on/off ASA,solid there also(see pic),feedneck is low profile,solid and clamping,something we often pay extra for even on high end guns
Shot a hopperload consistant out of the box @275+/-10 fps with rec grade Valken paint that was a little underbored with air,blame the paint more than the gun,I also wonder if there isnt a break in period
It came with FS rounds.Wow,thanks Kingman
A new gun with all that for the price!?!You could spend more on a hopper or barrel,etc!!
Updates and question answered before release here by Imartin,awesome customer service before release,you really sold me there !

The Bad
Really only on gripe and I feel its very minor
Switching from mag to hopper is easy to do but i found even with a jewelers screwdriver it was a little difficult to access the philips screws(see pic)
A few minutes with a rattail file and fixed.Think it might help to use allen screws instead with a ball head wrench,but I was inpatient so..

Potential mods
Heat shrink tube on adjusting allen wrech.I did this to prevent scratching the inside of the barrel(see pic)Also added mircoline on the T end.probably could use some fuel hoses etc for this
instead but i had some around
Thumbscrew\pullpin for mag to hopper barrel switch switch.See someone has already done this with theirs
Air thru stock.Wish I hadnt traded away my old one I used on my 'Mag now
Raised site rail.Althought it seems fine when I tested it with my Flex 8 gogs on using the back bottle adapter a sight rail might be an improvement
Airthru grip\ASA.I know someone will do this eventually.At this pricepoint it can't be cost effective
Extended pump arms to cover exposed bolt(see pic)Dont know if they'd get in the way,could help keep paint and dirt out of the bolt section

Overall I'm overly impressed without any field time,really looking forward to "Hammer" out some rounds at my local public field and start a new pump paintball experience.If you'd have told me in '95 you could get so much for so little $ I think i would've laughed.Thanks Kingman for putting quality and variety in one package.
1st field time post review
Had my 1st field test today and was very excited to try my 1st whole day of pump play,I even left my spares at home so not to tempt myself.I play outlaw and woodsball mostly where groups allow any fire modes and crono to 300fps so I expected a challange being a total pump newb
Rain all morning untill we started playing then cleared,was about 50 deg most of the day,turnout was good at about 20-25 players.I was shooting some Valken Infinity rec grade paint that was smallish.first several crono shots were over 320 with air!Quick fix and got a consitant 285 +/-5fps.I was using my 68/45 and trusty Revy Ive had since the 90s
1st game,got bold,1st player out
2nd game,managed to crawl midfield on the tapeline trench.Got a confirmed gog shot at around 50-60 feet thru a slat in a pallet.Got another player from the same position sson after.Tried a little autotrigger and got a few double feeds,probably user error.used about 2/3 or a hopper
3rd game I switched to magfed paintballs,cronoed a consistantly again,brought 2 10 round tubes.managed to make it thru a mag and one reload before I was shot out.
Field reload wasnt too tough but now I know magfed is worth buying more mags
4th game,We defended,switched to FS rounds,The hometeam'the Jokers teammated donated 20 FS strike rounds,thanks Frodo!!brought a tube of FS rounds extra + my 2 10 rounders.Found the FS rounds dificult to chamber,realy requires you to cock the gun carefully all the way back,I wonder if adjusting the pump rod would help?Missed my nephews head and cameraman by a few feet with a FS,they both said it had a noticable sound,hopefully its on film
My field review as a pump noob with a new gun
Pump play,I'm hooked,knew I would be ,kind of why I waited to buy one.definately a learning curve and yes I tried to fire it without cocking it 1st a few times
Hammer 7.As this is the 1st pump Ive owned and I never played a full day with one
I may be biased.Felt good and stable in my hands,pump was smooth,easy to sight down with a mask and bottomline,NO BREAKS!I did only shoot about 200 rounds but I wish I could say that about my 2 other guns I bought new ,a 07 PMR and Gen 1 Ion I still have.
Paintball magfed had no issues,I even managed a reload with tubes a few times
FS I did have some issues with,there may be an adjustment I can make,it worked about 1/2 the time,i still have a few extras so ill do some more tests.
Acuracy seemed above average for smallbore recball paint,though it was fresh and undimpled.I did have some doublefeeds on autotrigger but I really dont expect to use it much,seems to me this would be common with any pump
Did I mention no breaks.And I only shot 200ish rounds,and used maybe 1k of my 4500?
And the Hammer cost under $150?Do I love it,how couldnt I.I could see playing all day with a half dozen mags and a 13/3 tank
The Jokers were filming today,hope they caught a little video of some Hammer time
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Old 01-10-2013, 03:29 AM #2
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nice review man, im glad the spyders are in the right way. i might now purchase one of these again. dont forget to write the review in the reviews area.
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:13 PM #3
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Hmm...You might've just made up my mind for me...I was looking at just pumping an old 'Cocker, but by the time I'm done with that I probably will have bought myself a Hammer 7.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:42 PM #4
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Check out the many threads on M Carter Brown and see all the mods members have done over there,you'll definately be convinced
Done a few more tests,figured out the FS problem was because of a small misallingment when barrel was rotated,seems to cycle FS fine now
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Now you start getting accessories,I love mine too welcome to the pump family!
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Love this mod!Seems like a decent price too
did some more FS testing,I'm seeing that the rounds are more of any issue than the marker itself
I "dressed" the rounds by removing spurs off the fins and sanding the round dimple at the front,removed detents and barrel to check cycling while dry firing/pumping to load,everything was much smoother
FS shoot so far I almost feel like it needs a 2x sight!
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Love this mod!Seems like a decent price too
did some more FS testing,I'm seeing that the rounds are more of any issue than the marker itself
I "dressed" the rounds by removing spurs off the fins and sanding the round dimple at the front,removed detents and barrel to check cycling while dry firing/pumping to load,everything was much smoother
FS shoot so far I almost feel like it needs a 2x sight!
Hmm FS are jamming?,is this a common problem or do you think you got a bad batch? Lmk and I'll investigate at work on Monday with the techs.
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Hmm FS are jamming?,is this a common problem or do you think you got a bad batch? Lmk and I'll investigate at work on Monday with the techs.
Some I got with the gun,others were 2nd hand,all had the front raised circles(assume this is factory/normal?),most had few had casting spurs along the fins.It only took me a few minutes to clean the fins and remove the circles,after that no problems.I also adjusted the pump guide arm in a small bit as I noticed the bolt was a bit more forward in the breech in the full back pump position.I used a Freak insert to check alignment and bolt spacing,they fit perfect
After those tweeks it feeds splendidly!Deer in my neighborhood tremble at the sight of my Hammer!
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Some I got with the gun,others were 2nd hand,all had the front raised circles(assume this is factory/normal?),most had few had casting spurs along the fins.It only took me a few minutes to clean the fins and remove the circles,after that no problems.I also adjusted the pump guide arm in a small bit as I noticed the bolt was a bit more forward in the breech in the full back pump position.I used a Freak insert to check alignment and bolt spacing,they fit perfect
After those tweeks it feeds splendidly!Deer in my neighborhood tremble at the sight of my Hammer!
haha cool,Im glad you got it worked out.
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I wish the rear asa didn't put the tank at an angle. Is there an aftermarket asa or adapter to put the bottle level with the rest of the gun? Might make an air through stock feel more natural.
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I wish the rear asa didn't put the tank at an angle. Is there an aftermarket asa or adapter to put the bottle level with the rest of the gun? Might make an air through stock feel more natural.
Someone on M Carter Brown is considering doing one if there is enough interest,as far as i know there isnt any adapter made by antone currently

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got a case of NEW ones,feeds splendidly now
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Yeah I saw that! I hope he goes into production, $30 would be spendy for a mass produced piece, but I can appreciate someone making a quality item by hand, so it does seem fair to me. I'll have to register on there and egg him on, lol
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Yeah I saw that! I hope he goes into production, $30 would be spendy for a mass produced piece, but I can appreciate someone making a quality item by hand, so it does seem fair to me. I'll have to register on there and egg him on, lol
Theres so many mods at MCB for the Hammer Im loosing track of them
Alot of members there will do "one off" machining also,usaully pretty pricey but considering the work involved its usually worth it
Have a feeling by the time most members there are done the mod costs will be more than the marker itself
I'm going to adapt one of my boxmags to fit my H7 just because I can ,also working on a springfed drummag with help from other member there
Heres my current config,cast the grips myself,has a M14 rail on pumphandle,bipod is just to use as a gunstand,too bulky for actual gameplay
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Hmm FS are jamming?,is this a common problem or do you think you got a bad batch? Lmk and I'll investigate at work on Monday with the techs.

I'm having the same problem. But I'll try the "fix" and see what occurs.

Removing mag and barrel during a protracted exchange did not do wonders for my health last weekend, let me tell you.
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I'm having the same problem. But I'll try the "fix" and see what occurs.

Removing mag and barrel during a protracted exchange did not do wonders for my health last weekend, let me tell you.
I felt the same way handloading FS while under fire!Teammate just bought one he liked mine so much,we are thinking we may have a FS standoff to see max range next Sunday
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Had a FS standoff against a Tiberius this past Sunday.Range was starting at 250+ft.Unfortunately I had left my red dot on,battery was dead .Both of us used one mag each,He scored 3 hits out of 8 using a 4X scope including one that bounced 10 ft in front of me an hit me in the knee and one center mass shot,I failed to hit him,all my shots were high,Im still getting used to the flat trajectory of FS rounds,The more I tinker with FS rounds the more Im impressed,thinking I may want a 2X scope in the future
We'll be making this a regular thing,my other friend just got himself a Hammer 7 also and passed it around to anyone who wanted to field test it,its was a real hit all around
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