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Old 03-01-2013, 03:29 PM #1
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Frozen Clone GT

Hello,

Have you ever experienced a "frozen" Clone GT when playing between 0 to 8 degrees celsius ?
The issue is frozing the airport first, next it moves to the grip and reg, and finaly the bolt is no more cycling...

I encounter this issue frequently (every time i played this winter) and it starts after playing 2 to 3 points... Very annoying...
As i am a back/mid player, i shoot quite continuously in psp 12 rof...

Thank you for your feedback and advises
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:36 PM #2
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Sounds like the compressor your using is some how allowing moisture into its system
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:55 PM #3
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Hello,

Had this issue on multiple fields, and during the last event of the millennium in europe. I guess their comps are "safe"
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:00 PM #4
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Hmm well air in general need to be super cold to freeze. The only thing I can think of is some type of moisture is getting into the gun some how. For example liquid oxygen turns to air at around -297f. So I doubt the air is freezing. Is there frost on the airport. I know when I shoot psp 12 in the summer if I shoot non stop all game my barrel will get a layer of frost on it because of the humidity.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:02 PM #5
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Yep, there is frost on the airport, and later, on the grip. One time i had to remove my glove to release the GT...
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:05 PM #6
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Moreover, we had 3 clones GT doing this.
Other markers (ie vendor) did not have this issue....
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:47 PM #7
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I would like to see how the Tank reg is reacting. We have plenty of teams shooting in -5C with out any of this issues you are discribing.
This being a constant issue you are having, please if you can answer me a few quick questions?

Tank and regulator you are using and at what output pressure?

Lube, whatblube are you using inside the marker?

When shooting a heavy stream as you discribe are u seeing this freeze up only at these temps?

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Old 03-02-2013, 03:19 AM #8
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Hello,

I am using :
Ninja SLP reg with an output pressure of about 300psi with a Safer/Fuel 1.2l tank @ 4500psi
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Ninja reg with an output pressure of about 450psi with a Stacko 1.1l tank @ 4500psi

Same issue with both systems.

And yes there is some frost on the reg, but i think that the frost is first on the airport, next the grip, next the reg, and next the bolt is no more cycling.
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:00 AM #9
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It's simply the moisture in the air frosting onto the gun because its getting cold. It's already cold and you are shooting streams which allows the air in your gun to expand meaning it gets even colder allowing moisture to condense and freeze on your gun. Keep your gun warmer In between games if possible. It's cold here in KY and in out indoor it gets even colder unless its heated which is usually only during events and there is so much moisture in there if I play back a whole game 6 pods usually my ASA will frost up and on long points even the body may frost up. The gun still shoots doesn't it? Leave the ASA on, no need to turn it off. If its not affecting you playing don't worry about it.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:58 AM #10
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The fact is, during race to 4 games, with 2 minutes between points, the asa is completly frost during the second point, and during the 3rd one, not able to shoot anymore... The bolt is frost.

Last time i shooted a backup marker from another vendor, and no problem...
Very weird this is affecting the GT
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:47 AM #11
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what is your dwell at? And how are you greasing the bolt. Od that your gun visualy gets frozen while others do not.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:04 AM #12
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We are in europe to it was snowing, we have 10 gt's in the team.
No problem with frost.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:45 AM #13
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My dwell is normally at 10 during summer (works great), and during winter at 12 (stock) but i tried at 14 and 16... Same issue.

My bolt is normally greased with the militia lube 2
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:42 PM #14
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this happened to me but it was s lube problem, have you tried switching?
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:11 AM #15
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Helo, i will have a try with my old sleek lube
But how can a lube can create frost on the asa, grip etc....
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:56 AM #16
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If you are freezing over its most likely you are getting water in the marker. Even though you are trying other tanks it is still coming from same supply tanks you fill from.
Other markers may not act the same to the moisture so im unsure of the issue in the cold other than moisture or not enough lube being used.
If you try more lube up dwell to 14 the lube may help to keep the moisture out.

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Old 03-03-2013, 10:29 AM #17
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Yeah that's simply what happens to hoseless guns. It's going through the ASA and Frame to the body and regulator. Are you using a HP tank? I've found that the higher pressure output, since it expands faster it cools quicker. Like I said you just need to keep your gun warm in between points. Also ShootnPoo is right if it's in your bolt it means there's water in your air system. Tell the field to purge their tanks of water in the lines so stuff like this doesn't harm peoples guns.
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I used my Droids in -10f below (or -23c) and didn't have issues, lube the gun and use FRESH batteries.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:40 PM #19
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oh my gun wasnt frosting over but my bolt would stick after one came and i had to re lube it for it to work again. guess you are having a different problem completely
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