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View Poll Results: Worst dictator
Saddam Hussein 1 1.69%
Adolf Hitler 10 16.95%
Joseph Stalin 10 16.95%
Pol Pot 5 8.47%
Barack Obama 30 50.85%
Muammar Gaddafi 0 0%
Mao Zedong 3 5.08%
Robert Mugabe 0 0%
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:33 PM #43
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More like you're assuming there's only one means. There are plenty of examples to the contrary, they just don't fit your narrative.



Okay, but why is it always tyranny we're stopping?



Wut? You asked how Obama compares to the list. I've stated he doesn't even begin to compare by orders of magnitude. As for making a list, it means I'd be devolving into your charade and taking this premise as legitimate, which I don't. You're being ridiculous and it's not even fun.

Why is FDR on your list?
I don't think he knows why he agrees with my inclusion of FDR.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:36 PM #44
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Why is one purpose the defining purpose?
Because we now maintain a sizable standing army. You already know all of this (or should, anyway).
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:41 PM #45
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So corrupt politicians just want to establish a tyranny?

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I don't think he knows why he agrees with my inclusion of FDR.
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Because we now maintain a sizable standing army. You already know all of this (or should, anyway).
It's legal for the military to operate on US soil against US citizens?

More like tyranny invokes fear and is effective at scaring people into irrationality.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:45 PM #46
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Most enlisted men will not fire on american citizens. Most commanding officers will not risk their own heads in civil war to protect the skin of a politician. Having guns is a good way to ensure this scenario plays out, just in case it ever needed to.

It isn't even a tyrannical government anyone should be worried about but our own country men.

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Old 03-01-2013, 03:46 PM #47
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Most enlisted men will not fire on american citizens. Most commanding officers will not risk their own heads in civil war to protect the skin of a politician. Having guns is a good way to ensure this scenario plays out, just in case it ever needed to.
The US would be in real ****ing trouble long before that scenario played out. I just don't see why it's always the go to boogie man.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:52 PM #48
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The US would be in real ****ing trouble long before that scenario played out. I just don't see why it's always the go to boogie man.
The constitution. Look. I expect a peaceful succession along lines of commonality long before civil war. I'll say that most of the reason we are still in tact today has to do with a deep respect for the authority of the federal government. if that authority disappears in the minds of enough people, it's gone, and no amount of technology, military or bureaucratic iron might can change that.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:54 PM #49
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The constitution. Look. I expect a peaceful succession along lines of commonality long before civil war. I'll say that most of the reason we are still in tact today has to do with a deep respect for the authority of the federal government. if that authority disappears in the minds of enough people, it's gone, and no amount of technology, military or bureaucratic iron might can change that.
In other words we'd be ****ed long before tyranny happens.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:57 PM #50
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In other words we'd be ****ed long before tyranny happens.
Government tyranny, yes of course. I think the past 50-60 years have taught us that the government isn't the only entity capable of tyranny.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:59 PM #51
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Government tyranny, yes of course. I think the past 50-60 years have taught us that the government isn't the only entity capable of tyranny.
What do we do in that case? Everything I've read about the Second Amendment says it's meant to stop us from a tyrannical government. All the literature would be useless! Do you think posting about it on Facebook would help? How about if I Tweet repeatedly?
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It's legal for the military to operate on US soil against US citizens?
To put down civil unrest? absolutely.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:04 PM #53
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To put down civil unrest? absolutely.
But it has to be approved by the President and Congress?
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:07 PM #54
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What do we do in that case? Everything I've read about the Second Amendment says it's meant to stop us from a tyrannical government. All the literature would be useless! Do you think posting about it on Facebook would help? How about if I Tweet repeatedly?
You can buy a gun, for personal reasons, because you have the right to do so without justification. And if anyone tries to ask you why you need them, you can tell them to punch themselves sqwahh in the nuts.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:08 PM #55
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You can buy a gun, for personal reasons, because you have the right to do so without justification. And if anyone tries to ask you why you need them, you can tell them to punch themselves sqwahh in the nuts.
Whew, I already have mah guns. I'm prepared.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:10 PM #56
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Could also use an answer to the question you were asked. Still haven't addressed the person who listed FDR above Hitler I see, nor did F1Venom as of now. And you talk to me about being crazy?

Apparently being crazy is perfectly ok as long as that person fits your personal criteria and doesn't pick on President Obama.

This pack of liberals around here literally do not get it.
The person who listed FDR is one of my most trusted users in here. I'd rather let him explain himself (whether it be a joke or a legitimate answer) than assume. It's not in my nature to make wild assumptions.

Here's the thing:

He listed FDR
That's it. Nothing else.

You listed Obama for unsound reasons that follow illogical pathways or slipper-slope fallacies. The whole he-would-be-this-way-if-he-did-this-and-wanted-this-while-this-happened-because-some-other-guy-did-something-somewhat-similar argument is washed out and hysterical. I can counter your bull**** accusations. I can't counter something that hasn't been presented.

But it's cool. Keep trying to blame an entire ideological mindset for anything you don't like. True understanding just takes too much time.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:12 PM #57
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Whew, I already have mah guns. I'm prepared.
I can't have guns in my home for another 3 years...
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:18 PM #58
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What do we do in that case? Everything I've read about the Second Amendment says it's meant to stop us from a tyrannical government. All the literature would be useless! Do you think posting about it on Facebook would help? How about if I Tweet repeatedly?
Ever heard of Paul Revere? What did he do?
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:21 PM #59
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Ever heard of Paul Revere? What did he do?
Ever heard of Brian Boitano? If he was here today, what do you think he would do?
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But it has to be approved by the President and Congress?
President doesn't need congress if it falls within the confines of the Insurrection Act.
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Ever heard of Paul Revere? What did he do?
He who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and, um, making sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that, uh, we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
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He who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and, um, making sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that, uh, we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
Do you remember Obama and Biden's gaffes in this much detail for that long a period of time?

F1Venom - yeah, some corrupt politicians may.
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Ever heard of Brian Boitano? If he was here today, what do you think he would do?
I'm sure he'd kick an *** or two..

And I voted for Obama, cuz I'm a good American.
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