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Old 02-20-2013, 09:36 AM #43
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If you have it set up properly, it shouldn't be a problem, but check out the ZR1 for sure then. You can usually pick those up used for under 600$ now
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:04 AM #44
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The ASA and stock reg on the ZR1 is terrible IMO. The only way I'd shoot one of those is with an aftermarket reg and ASA which would have to be run with macroline (like a luxe can be).
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:53 AM #45
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The Hostile Creations Rogue can be had for under 400 and they are SUPER smooth shooters with a very simple design. If you can find one that has all the v2 parts and no leaks they are GREAT markers. Tough to find though, and kind difficult to find help on, shot quality is comparable to a luxe or clone and they are macro less. By posting this I'm not saying that this marker is in any way superior to the rest of the markers mentioned. I just thought as an owner of one I would advocate for the marker.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:53 PM #46
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A clone or geo 3 if you want a spool. Ego or g6r for a poppet
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:32 PM #47
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thx guys
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:34 PM #48
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A clone or geo 3 if you want a spool. Ego or g6r for a poppet
I wich I could get a geo3 or clone but thos rnt in my price range
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:44 PM #49
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are demons very good?
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:14 PM #50
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are demons very good?
From an unbiased point of view, yes. Getting a'13 kit which I believe removes the QEVs is a necessity. The screen is good and they shoot nice. My gripe is the trigger and lack of trigger options. I am also not real big on Vanguard as a company (old owners).
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:50 PM #51
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You should seriously consider a Macdev drone dx. Runs of 100 psi and is pretty efficient. Its the best marker in its price-range by far. Easy maintainance too with few parts.

The best thing is, you can buy it new and still have money left.

If macroless is a requirement, i would go with a G6R.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:33 AM #52
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thx man im going to the field 2marrow 2 test guns out to c if i like them
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:08 PM #53
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and im also looking at resale value i dont want 2 by new because if i buy a new gun the value will drop like crazy
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