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Old 02-17-2013, 09:31 PM #1
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DM12 6 pods in the cold! wtf

So y buddies DM12 is only getting 6 pods. Givin its pretty cold at oxcc right now, 34 degrees, but 6 pods? With crazy. His dwell is at 18 but thats they only setting i know.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:37 PM #2
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So y buddies DM12 is only getting 6 pods. Givin its pretty cold at oxcc right now, 34 degrees, but 6 pods? With crazy. His dwell is at 18 but thats they only setting i know.

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Your shooting a DM in the cold. Thats gonna be about it.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:40 PM #3
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It couldnt be an lpr thats to high?
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:47 PM #4
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:51 PM #5
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DMs are not known to be very efficient in the first place. In the cold they get worse. Tue only way to help is to get a good paint match and tune your dwell down. However, unless you carry more then 6 pods on the field with you i wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:22 PM #6
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It's been a rare point that I shot all 7 pods and the hopper I took out with me.

I do run an 88/4500 tank, but I think I'll be stepping down to a 77/4500 soon as I don't need the volume.

DM12, stock dwell, LPR 3 turns out, stock bolt (well worn in), etc.

I only adjust dwell if it's under 40 degrees (and honestly I don't like playing when it's close to freezing out).
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:55 PM #7
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Hmm, how many turns out is your lpr?
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You could try to lower your LPR but if you're playing in the cold you don't want to ride the line. If anything.......let the gun cool down to the temperature you're playing in first...then set the LPR from there.

You could lower your dwell a bit as well but in the cold..that's always iffy. I guess if your paint is pretty tough you could try it. Most likely you'll break paint though.

Best bet is leave the gun as is and try to use a tighter bore barrel. That might get you another pod.

NOt a lot of options in the cold. Anything you do may get you more shots, but also more broken balls. Buy a poppet for the winter is my best advice.
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It's been a rare point that I shot all 7 pods and the hopper I took out with me.

I do run an 88/4500 tank, but I think I'll be stepping down to a 77/4500 soon as I don't need the volume.

DM12, stock dwell, LPR 3 turns out, stock bolt (well worn in), etc.

I only adjust dwell if it's under 40 degrees (and honestly I don't like playing when it's close to freezing out).
meh, ANY stock dm will get 8 pods and a hopper

best settings are

dwell 21 lpr 3 3 1/4

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meh, ANY stock dm will get 8 pods and a hopper

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dwell 21 lpr 3 3 1/4
yup I agree
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:02 PM #11
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Depends how full your tank is too. A lot of places say they have 4500 fills......but in reality you may not be near that high, so you'll get less shots.

Most likely your LPR is set too high. Put your dwell at 21. That will let you run your LPR lower which is where the most air savings can be made on the DM line.
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:39 AM #12
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dwell 21 lpr 3 3 1/4
What do you mean by the "lpr 3 3 1/4"? I know stock on the DM12's it's supposed to be 4 turns out....


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Old 02-19-2013, 01:00 PM #13
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Sounds like your bolt tail orings aren't sealing 100% due to the cold getting them to shrink some. Put some fresh ones that are a bit thicker. Just take the back cap and test their fit to it to make sure they fit fairly snug.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:43 PM #14
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What do you mean by the "lpr 3 3 1/4"? I know stock on the DM12's it's supposed to be 4 turns out....


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As in turn your LPR all the way in till it stops, then back it out 3 3 1/4 complete 360 turns
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As in turn your LPR all the way in till it stops, then back it out 3 3 1/4 complete 360 turns
So, turn it out to between 3 and 3.25 turns, depending on what your chrono and HPR adjustment allows, right? Just making sure.
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So, turn it out to between 3 and 3.25 turns, depending on what your chrono and HPR adjustment allows, right? Just making sure.
Yes, most of the time 3 1/4 or 3 1/2 works better for the cold
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Some guns can run higher, some can run lower. You just need to set your gun as low as it can go.......while still working 100%. I would let your gun cool down to the temperature you're playing in before making any adjustments. Cold guns and warm guns don't work the same.
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Some guns can run higher, some can run lower. You just need to set your gun as low as it can go.......while still working 100%. I would let your gun cool down to the temperature you're playing in before making any adjustments. Cold guns and warm guns don't work the same.
I'm going to be playing in 35-40 degree weather on Saturday, do you think I should leave my gun in my car overnight so its the same temp as outside?
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I'm going to be playing in 35-40 degree weather on Saturday, do you think I should leave my gun in my car overnight so its the same temp as outside?
Honestly there is no need for that, I played in 23 degree weather with snow saturday. just whiped it out and blasted fools

Now i will tell you almost ALL dms that day chopped if they didnt have a dwell of 21 and a lower LPR setting
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I shoot a DM6 and get 6 pods and a loader in the cold.

I recommend attacking aggressively or not playing 7man.

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Honestly there is no need for that, I played in 23 degree weather with snow saturday. just whiped it out and blasted fools

Now i will tell you almost ALL dms that day chopped if they didnt have a dwell of 21 and a lower LPR setting
Ya I have the dwell on my dm11 set to 21 and am going to tune it when I get to the field.
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