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Old 01-24-2013, 07:58 PM #1
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Empire Axe - LE PDD vs Empire Axe Pro

besides the obvious $75 difference, what does the LE PDD have that the regular axe pro doesn't?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:29 PM #2
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The Empire Freak kit and a warranty from Kee Action Sports/Empire. Empire doesn't offer an Axe Pro. The Axe Pro is an ANSGear package ONLY and doesn't offer a warranty. You may run into issues with an ANS anodized Pro with Empire since anodizing can change the tolerances of key parts causing it not to work properly.

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Old 01-26-2013, 01:04 PM #3
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The Empire Freak kit and a warranty from Kee Action Sports/Empire. Empire doesn't offer an Axe Pro. The Axe Pro is an ANSGear package ONLY and doesn't offer a warranty. You may run into issues with an ANS anodized Pro with Empire since anodizing can change the tolerances of key parts causing it not to work properly.
So then which would be a better option?
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:12 PM #4
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:28 PM #5
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The LE by far..
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:26 PM #6
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whichever doesnt come from ans.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:58 PM #7
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:52 PM #8
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The le. The freak is obviously a barrel choice that many pro players use, and the warranty, even if you've never used one, is nice to have!
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:27 PM #10
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ok then what would you suggest other than ans, and what's so bad about ans anyway?
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:47 AM #11
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They have a tendency to get orders wrong and then be extremely difficult about fixing them.

And I've heard their private label annos can **** things up. I specifically remember a guy with an Ego that was out of spec and wouldn't shoot because of ANS' anno.

Which was especially miserable for him because ANS pointed him at Eclipse to get it fixed and Eclipse pointed at ANS. Definitely a buyer beware.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:47 PM #12
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Nothing is wrong with ANS, it's just their policies on custom products like anno'd guns. They send out the gun, have it anno'd, then re-assemble it and send it out. If something is wrong after the anno, they accept no responsibility and try to put it on the manufacturer to fix knowing it was their fault it broke in the first place. To date, I have seen 3 effed up anno'd by ANS guns;

pink-black fade mini - ANS reassembled the gun and stripped the rear screw mounting the trigger frame.

Lime Green Axe Pro - custom anno pitted the tray where the bolt release button goes no longer allows the mechanism to hold the button.

Cobalt/Black Axe - custom anno'd air transfer plate, pitted to where it doesn't seal anymore.

Not to mention, if they are out of something you want or ordered specifically, they will substitute with something else. That being said, you take your chances with custom work done by ANS, but hey it's your money.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:53 PM #13
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ok then what would you suggest other than ans, and what's so bad about ans anyway?
What the 2 guys above me said. Not that it was a big deal but they sent me the wrong size jersey and wanted me to pay return shipping. I have also read of quite a few part swapped guns that the manufacturer wouldn't warranty.
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