[floridapbguy]

Greetings to all,

As the title says I'm looking at each of the 3 markers to upgrade from my spyder. I only get to play every other weekend due to work(recball and speedball). I've read every review on each of the 3 markers and all seem to be great with the occasional bad review, but every marker is going to fail without proper care and cleaning.

I am able to find the DP markers pretty cheap as most know and was kind of sold on the axe until my buddy found a g3 for like $120 in perfect condition. It shoots fast and hasn't had any issues as of yet. The axe seems great as well but has a bit higher price tag. Money isn't a huge deal it's just that I'll only be using it every other week and will not be playing in any crazy tournaments.


If anyone has experience with one or all of the listed markers please give me some input. Thanks in advance!!!

[blueshifty]

Every other weekend is more than most people that will give you advice. If it were me, I'd go with an axe because I like the way it shoots better.

[floridapbguy]

[FriendlyNudist]

I assume your Spyder still works. If so, $120 dollars isn't a bad investment on a knock around gun, but personally I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I spend a little money on an incremental upgrade now and then a few months down the line feel the urge to upgrade again.

If this was your very first gun and you didn't know if you were going to play that often, or if your current gun was broken and just needed something to point and shoot, I'd say go with the G3. If you didn't like it, you could always keep it around as a backup gun. However, since you're looking for something nicer than what you currently have, I say go ahead and treat yourself to the best you can comfortably afford (whether it be a G4 or an axe or a Luxe). If you continue playing for any extended period of time, putting up more money up front might save you less in the long run.

[savage24x]

If you're looking to keep playing the sport for awhile and maybe more after that, I would go with an axe. If you plan to stay a recballer and not really get partially-serious with the sport, then get the G3.

[[NA]WARLORD]

Get the Axe, either way you go, your still going to want something dependable. I have seen at my local field, more DP's waiting to get fixed vs actual playtime, whether it was the gun or the user is irrelevant to me.

[floridapbguy]

thanks to all!

[dps093]

Axe all the way

[Roninwarrior7]

I was seriously considering the G5 but was put off by DP's support and quality issues. For all intents I've read they've addressed most quality issues on late run G4's but still, would you really want to find out first hand for $300+?

The Axe is a great gun to boot. Nice to hold, shoots smoothly, quietly, and efficiently. And it's easy to maintain. Imo, it's in a different class from those markers.

[itsjonbro]

Just sold my g3 for 100$ but if you can pick up an axe, But if isnt truly worth the cash then a g4

[Weroliera (Banned)]

I have an axe
When I was comparing I was not comparing to any dp
I was comparing etek4 drone dx and axe
Finally got the axe
I play every week or every other week as well
I have already 7 cases In my axe I am super duper happy. I only opened the bolt and lubbed it one time I was scared I didn't really know if I did it right (but it shot after so meh). It isn't to sensible like I have heard some guns are
And once I learn more i am sure I can relube in less than a minute

[avengeddisciple]

get a hold of the markers and try them if you can. the g3 fits my hands just right and i have never ever had an issue with it. from experience I would say g3 would be good. They are super easy to work on. good luck good sir

[Roninwarrior7]

Originally Posted by Weroliera

I have an axe
When I was comparing I was not comparing to any dp
I was comparing etek4 drone dx and axe
Finally got the axe

Yeah, how this sort of went for me is I was comparing it to the Mini. Then that sort of lead to the Axe. (Sort of)

[Weroliera (Banned)]

Originally Posted by Roninwarrior7

Yeah, how this sort of went for me is I was comparing it to the Mini. Then that sort of lead to the Axe. (Sort of)

lol what sold me to the axe was that it was designed to shoot brittle paint not like etek4 and other guns in the price range
I KNOW MANY PEOPLE SHOOT SUPER BRITTLE PAINT WITH THEIR GUNS
and theyre lucky but the axe was actualy designed to do so

and also being at the time that my a 5 would break 5 out of ten balls this just fit right what i needed 7 cases in 0breaks

[SNAKESNIPER (Banned)]

DP stuff is cheap for a reason: IT'S CHEAP.

[dps093]

Originally Posted by SNAKESNIPER

DP stuff is cheap for a reason: IT'S CHEAP.

This

[TacSlayer]

I happen to currently own both. Honestly, the major problem you will find with the G4 is the reg. Its cheap, plastic, and is rather pathetic;while on the other hand, the axe is all internal, making it alot easier to maintain and play with. It may cost more, but the Axe is more dependable and better made. So, unless you want an air leak every 2 or 3 games( and when I say an air leak, i mean gushing out air and losing 2/3 of your tank's pressure) then I would take the safer, more dependable route of the Axe.

[tlmiller]

Not even a competition here. Axe is so superior to the Gx, it's not even funny.

[benzy2]

First, the g4 isn't plastic. The reg isn't plastic. It's aluminum like most others.

If it were me, I'd want to buy the Axe but I'd end up justifying the DP G3/4, which is what I've done. Is the axe a better gun out of the box? Yes. It has a better trigger, it has a better feel when shooting, it has a far better customer support system backing it up. I still passed on it for a DP.

Think about the reasoning you've seen above as to why not to get the G3/4. Others have either heard or seen DP G3/4 markers with problems, not owned markers with problems. The typical problems are simple and easily prevented. Should you have to do this to get a marker running well? No. But it's also quick and easy to get around with a light use of Dow 33.

When I compare my G4 to an Axe, I don't feel it's performance on field is any different than the Axe. The trigger may not be as nice, but I shoot the same 13-14bps in semi as with any other trigger and it shoots in ramping like any other ramping setting. The Asa on both is a bottom flip lever. No problems with the one on the G4 so again, a draw. The feed neck on the g4 is a very nice lever lock. Again, draw. I have a techt engine in mine. With that, the shot quality is outstanding. I can't say I've missed because of marker recoil where something else would have been a hit. Again, draw. Both stock barrels are stock barrels. Nothing amazing, both shootable, both are something often replaced early on, draw. The g4 is more compact and is light. The axe is a little longer and light weight. Personal preference as to what you want, the g4 fits me fine and so does the axe. Functionally, I can't claim the G4 lacks in any way that effects my on field performance.

The real difference is customer support. Empire is by far better. DP support is bad to nonexistent. I've never sent a marker in to any company in the 15 years I've played. I've never taken one to a proshop to be fixed or tuned. To me, it's not a huge deal and replacement/spare parts are very cheap for the DP. I was turned off by the Axe with the fact Empire wants you to send it in if something is wrong with the reg. Clearly that isn't what I'm looking for. I'll opt for cheap parts rather than good service but a maintenance schedule that requires me to send the marker in once a year.

The DP G4 was the marker for me. With the techt engine I have a total of $190 in that marker to my door. That was at a time when a used Axe was holding a $350+ price tag. I'm very glad I bought the G4 and for the same price I would do it all over again. I don't think you can go wrong buying an axe either. They have a great track record so far and Empire has supported them very well. Either marker should be a good choice with one being a slightly better fitting choice.

[Kevin_Rocha]

dp sucks empire is way better!

[rexisme]

Axe....

Look on ebay, they can be had in the low 3 hundred dollar range bnib.