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Old 01-24-2013, 12:09 AM #1
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Torpedo and LPR o-ring substitute?

I've asked over on IOG but I'll ask here as well.....

Got another question for the Intimidator Gods here:

I'm rebuilding my torp and LPR on my Species but I don't have any of the -006 Teflon o-rings for the pin valves as the manual calls for (yep, I've read it several times Gamer ). I know regular old buna probably won't last long but I believe I have some spare polyurethane ones on hand for fixing tank fill nipple leaks. Will the poly o-rings work for the torp and LPR pin valves or do they need to be Teflon?

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Old 01-24-2013, 12:55 AM #2
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Same size? Sure they will WORK.. Definately not recommended though.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:20 AM #3
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They will work in a pinch but won't last as long. I recommend tracking down the correct o-ring but you could use the Buna ones in the meantime.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:30 AM #4
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are you talking about the regulator seat? If so, thats not an oring its a washer. and you dont want to use buna for it...and if your regs aren't creeping then keep the old ones.
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:47 AM #5
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are you talking about the regulator seat? If so, thats not an oring its a washer. and you dont want to use buna for it...and if your regs aren't creeping then keep the old ones.
Yes, those Teflon reg seats. This brings up another question, will -006 teflon o-rings work as a replacement for those spacers/washers? Is Blast the only place to get those OEM spacers/washers if o-rings don't work?

I ask because I thought I saw on PBK's site -here- a pic that looks like just a -006 Teflon o-ring and not the yellowish-brown semi-transparent OEM part. I just want to get some feedback from those who may have had to replace the reg seat in the hpr or lpr.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:20 AM #6
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get the correct parts....call blast order 10 of them...save your self the hassle and do it the right way....
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:22 PM #7
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Just thought I'd give a follow-up to this.

I can now confirm the comments above......turns out that standard -006 Teflon o-rings do not work as a replacement for the valve pin washers (despite what the manual alludes to). Tried one in the HPR and, at first, I thought I had blown my gauge I put on it, pegged it 300+ psi. De-gassed, shot off remaining air, backed out velocity adjustment screw, and tried again from 0 psi. Increased air in HPR then shot once.......as I then watched the needle on the gauge creep to over 300+ psi again (it's only a 300 psi gauge). Luckily I was using my LP tank and did not put a Teflon o-ring on the LPR pin. After I realized that the torp wasn't regulating the tank output pressure, put the old pin washer back in and creep problem fixed....and the gauge works fine.

Short version - -006 Teflon o-rings do not work as a replacement substitute for the OEM valve pin washers.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:32 PM #8
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are you talking about the regulator seat? If so, thats not an oring its a washer. and you dont want to use buna for it...and if your regs aren't creeping then keep the old ones.
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get the correct parts....call blast order 10 of them...save your self the hassle and do it the right way....
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Just thought I'd give a follow-up to this.

I can now confirm the comments above......turns out that standard -006 Teflon o-rings do not work as a replacement for the valve pin washers (despite what the manual alludes to). Tried one in the HPR and, at first, I thought I had blown my gauge I put on it, pegged it 300+ psi. De-gassed, shot off remaining air, backed out velocity adjustment screw, and tried again from 0 psi. Increased air in HPR then shot once.......as I then watched the needle on the gauge creep to over 300+ psi again (it's only a 300 psi gauge). Luckily I was using my LP tank and did not put a Teflon o-ring on the LPR pin. After I realized that the torp wasn't regulating the tank output pressure, put the old pin washer back in and creep problem fixed....and the gauge works fine.

Short version - -006 Teflon o-rings do not work as a replacement substitute for the OEM valve pin washers.
.....thought i said that.....^^^^ its a 006 washer not an oring....and its not teflon its polyurethane.....
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:52 PM #9
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.....thought i said that.....^^^^ its a 006 washer not an oring....and its not teflon its polyurethane.....
Yes you did. BUT, I also read the manual. Take a look for yourself. It says -006 Teflon. Anyway, now I know.
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Yes you did. BUT, I also read the manual. Take a look for yourself. It says -006 Teflon. Anyway, now I know.
i know, i noticed that many years ago as well. it says teflon...but it also says polyurethane....it is polyurethane. not sure why they out the teflon part in there, must be a misprint.

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Old 02-13-2013, 10:29 PM #11
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i know, i noticed that many years ago as well. it says teflon...but it also says polyurethane....it is polyurethane. not sure why they out the teflon part in there, must be a misprint.

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Got me, just going by the 2k2 manual. Anyway, moral of the story that comes out of all of this is that, despite what the 2k2 manual says, don't use -006 Teflon o-rings for the LPR and HPR valve pins. They won't work.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:49 AM #12
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The 2K2 manual is a little off and has mistakes. It also tells you to adjust your velocity by raising your LPR. My recommendation is to call BLAST. They'll get you squared away.
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