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02-12-2013, 06:08 PM
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Ultimately, it is insulting to people with Asperger's. They have a real disease. Blake is just stupid by choice.
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02-12-2013, 09:19 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cowbutt, AR
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The emotion fueled plea to bring the new gun control law to a vote was so pathetic
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02-12-2013, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tsbalr120
The emotion fueled plea to bring the new gun control law to a vote was so pathetic
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They're just laying the groundwork. Its in the liberals' nature.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - "No, you move."
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02-12-2013, 09:34 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Ya, insisting an issue be brought to a vote is typical liberal conniving.
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02-12-2013, 09:39 PM
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Zap Rowsdower
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Glad to see Rubio embrace the neo-con GOP establishment, and give a response to the SOTU that may as well have been written back in November. Same old **** that the GOP has been repeating for the last 4 years.
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02-12-2013, 09:55 PM
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Goooonsberry
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cowbutt, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spracks21
Glad to see Rubio embrace the neo-con GOP establishment, and give a response to the SOTU that may as well have been written back in November. Same old **** that the GOP has been repeating for the last 4 years.
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Agreed, he's actually had much better speeches in the past.
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02-13-2013, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by spracks21
Ya, insisting an issue be brought to a vote is typical liberal conniving.
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Insisting that the path to being more secure is more government control is typical liberal conniving.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - "No, you move."
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02-13-2013, 10:04 AM
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In the world we currently inhabit, voting is liberal conniving more often than it is not.
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02-13-2013, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by spracks21
Ya, insisting an issue be brought to a vote is typical liberal conniving.
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02-13-2013, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Austin 49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Pope
When it is voting on blatantly unconstitutional legislation, it absolutely is.
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Does this include when you're voting to amend the constitution?
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02-13-2013, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford
Does this include when you're voting to amend the constitution?
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02-13-2013, 10:47 AM
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Does this include when you're voting to amend the constitution?
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02-13-2013, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Austin 49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barrel roll
If the populous is voting to amend the Constitution, yes.
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Wait. Too many one-line answers, I'm confused. Are we saying yes, it's liberal conniving to amend the constitution? Or are we saying the people voting on amending the constitution equates to liberal conniving?
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That wouldn't be unconstitutional then, would it?
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My point is, often times if you're having to ammend the constitution it's due to something that's currently unconstitutional
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Everyone put something in your sig about it...
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02-13-2013, 10:56 AM
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If you are proposing legislation that is unconstitutional, it is nothing but a stupid political gesture so that you can throw up your arms and say "Well guy, we tried!"
If they want to implement the proposed legislation, they should do what they actually want to do and try to amend the Constitution. At least then they would be honest.
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02-13-2013, 11:05 AM
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sprezzatura
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: via lactea
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Is voter registration infringing on my right to vote? What about sedition and libel laws, those are unconstitutional too.
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02-13-2013, 11:07 AM
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secedere
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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Individual states control voter eligibility.
Alien and Sedition laws were interposed and nullified by the individual states.
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02-13-2013, 11:11 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Austin 49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Pope
If you are proposing legislation that is unconstitutional, it is nothing but a stupid political gesture so that you can throw up your arms and say "Well guy, we tried!"
If they want to implement the proposed legislation, they should do what they actually want to do and try to amend the Constitution. At least then they would be honest.
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As far as legislation to curb gun violence, maybe. However, I would argue that our forefathers would suggest that legislators could attempt to pass any law they want and that the constitutionality of these laws are held to the supreme court to review and affirm.
So I can't whine too much about congress, or anyone on the hill trying to pass laws to reflect the changing nature of our country. Everything else like the patriot act and 'obamacare' have had their judicial review and anything else Congress passes will be no exception.
In this way, liberal conniving sounds more like working as intended in my mind. Of course, I'm from Texas where the insane laws our legislature tries to pass some times makes the feds look timid.
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02-13-2013, 11:14 AM
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secedere
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford
As far as legislation to curb gun violence, maybe. However, I would argue that our forefathers would suggest that legislators could attempt to pass any law they want and that the constitutionality of these laws are held to the supreme court to review and affirm.
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02-13-2013, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Austin 49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barrel roll
No. That responsibility lies with the members of the compact.
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That's one theory wikipedia suggests...
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"Originally posted by Bronk0
Everyone put something in your sig about it...
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02-13-2013, 11:51 AM
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secedere
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: FL/GA border
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The reaction to the Alien and Sedition acts supports it as well. Unlike Lawyers, that are taught the Constitution and its meanings are just a series of case law whatchamacallits.
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02-13-2013, 06:33 PM
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Delicious.
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The District
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SevenGold-IV
How do you figure that? The NRA offers numerous low cost firearms training/safety classes that are aimed at civilians with little to no firearms experience. They even have a program for k-3rd graders to teach them that guns aren't toys. It's in their best interest to promote safe and responsible firearms use.
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Well that was convenient.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02...nt-revolution/
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