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Old 02-11-2013, 03:14 PM #1
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Getting about 5+ a loader out of a 3500 fill.

I bought a Luxe 2.0 off here a while back and when I first got it and started playing with it I was getting the average 7+ pods and a loader and since I put my new Ninja 77 on it I noticed that with a 3500 fill I was only getting about 5+ and a loader. The tank was brand new and still to this moment has all of it's shims in place. I've taken the gun apart and watched all the tech videos I can find on youtube and can't find out why I'm not getting more. This isn't the first luxe I've owned just thought I my have missed something. I did notice that whoever owned it before me broke off the head of the feather-touch screw while it was in the manifold, but I wouldn't think that this would cause any difference in how many pods I could get out of it. My dwell is at 12, training dwell is 4ms, first shot drop is 19ms, fsd timer 3. I live in Germany and the fill stations don't fill like they do in the U.S. they fill slowly so I can only get about 4100. My bore is 691, because the paint so different in size from bag to bag. Any info would help and if I have to send it to a tech who would I be able to send it to. Thanks
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:33 PM #2
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You should be getting a little more than that off a 77ci filled to 3500psi. Try changing the middle oring inside the can. If that doesn't fixt the problem, report back.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:39 PM #3
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I have replaced that oring. When I tested it to see how much I could get I changed every oring I could get to and the gun has no leaks
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Is your bolt and can stock?
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:02 PM #5
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I noticed that when I started running all HBNR (Green) Orings throughout my Can my efficiency got WAY better. Not sure if they are a little snugger or what.

Also remember that a 3500 Fill after sitting can drop 500-900 PSI when it cools down.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:54 PM #6
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I noticed that when I started running all HBNR (Green) Orings throughout my Can my efficiency got WAY better. Not sure if they are a little snugger or what.

Also remember that a 3500 Fill after sitting can drop 500-900 PSI when it cools down.
he said it's a slow fill so I wouldn't think the tank warms up a significant amount when filled
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:05 AM #7
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Is your bolt and can stock?
Yeah stock 2.0,
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:07 AM #8
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he said it's a slow fill so I wouldn't think the tank warms up a significant amount when filled
Yeah it takes about a good min. or min and half to fill a tank from complete empty
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Yeah it takes about a good min. or min and half to fill a tank from complete empty
a minute and a half is not a big deal
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:22 AM #10
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I know but its still fills slower then the U.S.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:25 AM #11
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I just noticed that my bolt guide was an 8th of a turn from completely being tight. I wonder if that could be it
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:27 PM #13
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Lol^ and maybe that could be it.
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I just re-tested it with about 3400 in my tank and the same bore size and I got 6 3/4 of a pod. I noticed that my back cap was a little too loose or wiggly, or maybe they are just suppose to be like that. Never really paid any attention to it.

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The position of the bolt guide could potentially cause efficiency problems. It controls the timing of the air being released down the barrel. I know the shocker guys use adjustable bolt guides to improve efficiency.

The current numbers sound right on.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:02 AM #17
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The position of the bolt guide could potentially cause efficiency problems. It controls the timing of the air being released down the barrel. I know the shocker guys use adjustable bolt guides to improve efficiency.

The current numbers sound right on.
For a 77 dura? I thought I could at least get about 10 out of that tank
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:25 AM #18
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Most likely you are losing a little efficiency by running a 691 back because most paint is smaller than that these days. With that said, 7ish pods is probably about right for a 77ci tank filled to 3400 psi. If you manage to fill that sucker up to ~4500psi you'll be getting those 10 pods.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:07 PM #19
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Cool thanks I play in Europe and we never shoot more then 6 and thats if the game goes completely in the other teams favor but its just nice to know there is nothing wrong with it
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