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Old 02-11-2013, 12:23 PM #1639
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A fahaka will not do well in a 75. Generally, if someone is looking to keep a fahaka, it'll do best in a 125-180 gallon tank.
eh you could manage a 75gal for quite some time with a fahaka. he does have larger tanks so he could move it when it grows out. i never like putting small fish into a huge tank to grow them out.

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It's cool until someone asks, "what else?" lol

Guess what this fish store gave me for free after I ordered my oddballs (don't pay for them until they get here)? Hint, he was on that list I posted earlier.
a Leporinus?

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Old 02-11-2013, 12:46 PM #1640
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Nice. Those things get huge though. It will be in your big tank in no time
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I'm so excited. His colors look really good already too

Hopefully him and the bichirs get along well, they are the same size and have similar adult sizes.
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if your fire eel reaches max size he will be about 3x bigger than your bichir. i assume you have a senegalus since those are the only ones usually available that do not cost a ton. i would be more worried about aggression from the bichir towards the eel when the eel is still smaller. if the bichir is cool with the knife fish i wouldn't expect any issues.



edit: i did a youtube search for large fire eels and this came up. this is more of an exception, though. you will be hard pressed to find one that large in captivity.

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if your fire eel reaches max size he will be about 3x bigger than your bichir. i assume you have a senegalus since those are the only ones usually available that do not cost a ton. i would be more worried about aggression from the bichir towards the eel when the eel is still smaller. if the bichir is cool with the knife fish i wouldn't expect any issues.



edit: i did a youtube search for large fire eels and this came up. this is more of an exception, though. you will be hard pressed to find one that large in captivity.
I have ornate bichirs. Once I have a tank worth showing off I'll post pictures of them.

The bichirs and the knife share hiding places FREQUENTLY. That's why I asked if fish raised together are less prone to adult aggression. I know that's probably a stupid question, but everyone is so peaceful right now. The emerald green corys are the only adults though

That video is EPIC, but he isn't a fire eel. I love fire eels, they have amazing colors and are somewhat hearty.

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I have ornate bichirs. Once I have a tank worth showing off I'll post pictures of them.

The bichirs and the knife share hiding places FREQUENTLY. That's why I asked if fish raised together are less prone to adult aggression. I know that's probably a stupid question, but everyone is so peaceful right now. The emerald green corys are the only adults though

That video is EPIC, but he isn't a fire eel. I love fire eels, they have amazing colors and are somewhat hearty.

are you sure that isn't a fire eel? there are like 4-5 species of eel that are labeled fire or tire track eels and that thing sure looks like a huge as fire to me. they do seem to lose a lot of that coloration once they get larger. i donno, its pretty dark so i guess it is sort of hard to tell



EDIT: I would not be surprised in the slightest if that cat ate that eel

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Yeah, it's hard to tell. I'm not 100% certain, but most adult fire eels I've seen pictures of retain their red. It was pretty dark in the video though.

I'm reading about people preferring 3 fire eels in one tank, that's crazy.
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they mentioned the fish multiple times from that vid on MFK and i have only seen it referred to as a gigantic fire eel. they are usually pretty accurate there. a fish that size and that fat has to weigh quite a bit, i cannot imagine shipping it.
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That is pretty nuts. Either way, it's an awesome eel

My little eel (along with everyone else) has finally been released into the new tank. They ****ing LOVE the new setup
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I hate seeing cats like that go to waste. They really shouldn't sell RTCs, TSNs, RTCxTSNs, until they see the home it's going to.
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I hate seeing cats like that go to waste. They really shouldn't sell RTCs, TSNs, RTCxTSNs, until they see the home it's going to.
I was more emphasizing the title and punchline of the video. They are beautiful fish though. I finally saw the (I want to say red tail) in my LFS 1000+ gallon tank. The cat is around 10" long right now, but he has lots of room He's also not for sale
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Yeah, it's hard to tell. I'm not 100% certain, but most adult fire eels I've seen pictures of retain their red. It was pretty dark in the video though.

I'm reading about people preferring 3 fire eels in one tank, that's crazy.
That one thrashing around, think about how stressed that fish was. More than likely has red colors, was just super stressed out.
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Torn between cardinal tetra and rummy-nose tetra. I love them both.

I think i might go for the one species biotope, sounds like fun.
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That one thrashing around, think about how stressed that fish was. More than likely has red colors, was just super stressed out.
I didn't even think about that. That's an amazing creature, 40"!! I'm so shocked it got that big. I guess I'll keep you guys posted on how mine grows!

I've decided the fire eel will follow me if I move conus in the future. It wont cost much to over night him to a fish store locally in my new location.

Question for you guys, are saltwater tanks really that hard? My wife wants a 90g tank we found that comes with, literally, everything. It's cheap, it's close, and its complete. I'm afraid I know so little about it that I will screw it up. Thoughts?
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I hate seeing cats like that go to waste. They really shouldn't sell RTCs, TSNs, RTCxTSNs, until they see the home it's going to.
Pretty much. there are very, very few people in the US that can house them. that is the same way i feel about pacu, common pleco, iridescent sharks, etc

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Torn between cardinal tetra and rummy-nose tetra. I love them both.

I think i might go for the one species biotope, sounds like fun.
i have rummy-noses in my larger community tank and absolutely love them. i personally prefer the rummy-nose because they are not quite as every day as cardinals or neons which you see in every other tank with tetras. the way their tails move with the stripes also has a really nice effect as well. i already had a lot of blue in my tank with my rainbows and GBR so the rummy-nose tetras gave it a little more variety.

if you are going to do the 1 species biotope i would go cardinals. if you have a huge school and nothing else in the tank it looks pretty awsome. IMO community = rummy-nose, single species = cardinal

the best single species biotope tetra is easily the exodon/buck tooth. you need quite a bit of space, a decent sized group (or they will kill each other) and they are pricey if you can actually find them. they are like mini-piranha but not boring as all hell

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so long as you keep it simple they are not too much more difficult than freshwater. while there are more parameters to balance than freshwater they are no more difficult to control than freshwater. i would suggest not doing corals or anything fancy as they are more difficult to keep but a simple fish only tank isnt too hard to care. plus 90 gal is a good starter size for saltwater
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I think i might go for the one species biotope, sounds like fun.
have you looked into red minor tetras? i find them more colorful than cardinal tetras.
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Leporinus, prochilodus, blue botias (red fin), fire eels...all easy to acquire. The LFS is having difficulty getting Siamese algae eaters They called to let me know those would take up to 2 weeks to get, the rest will be here next Monday.

No matter, I wont have enough algae to occupy them until then anyway.

Thanks Pope, I'll push forward on getting this setup then
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Leporinus, prochilodus, blue botias (red fin), fire eels...all easy to acquire. The LFS is having difficulty getting Siamese algae eaters They called to let me know those would take up to 2 weeks to get, the rest will be here next Monday.

No matter, I wont have enough algae to occupy them until then anyway.

Thanks Pope, I'll push forward on getting this setup then
Siamese algae eaters are actually kind of a pain to come by in a lot of places. they are often confused for flying foxes (more so the inverse of that). honestly, the first time i have seen them in about a year was this last weekend when i went to get more flourish

blue botias are pretty bad *** btw, much cooler choice than clown loaches.


Oh, this lil cutie pie was for sale at the store when I stopped in on sunday...

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