Getting about 5+ a loader out of a 3500 fill.

josh100408 · 02-11-2013, 03:14 PM

I bought a Luxe 2.0 off here a while back and when I first got it and started playing with it I was getting the average 7+ pods and a loader and since I put my new Ninja 77 on it I noticed that with a 3500 fill I was only getting about 5+ and a loader. The tank was brand new and still to this moment has all of it's shims in place. I've taken the gun apart and watched all the tech videos I can find on youtube and can't find out why I'm not getting more. This isn't the first luxe I've owned just thought I my have missed something. I did notice that whoever owned it before me broke off the head of the feather-touch screw while it was in the manifold, but I wouldn't think that this would cause any difference in how many pods I could get out of it. My dwell is at 12, training dwell is 4ms, first shot drop is 19ms, fsd timer 3. I live in Germany and the fill stations don't fill like they do in the U.S. they fill slowly so I can only get about 4100. My bore is 691, because the paint so different in size from bag to bag. Any info would help and if I have to send it to a tech who would I be able to send it to. Thanks

poopresearch · 02-11-2013, 03:33 PM

You should be getting a little more than that off a 77ci filled to 3500psi. Try changing the middle oring inside the can. If that doesn't fixt the problem, report back.

josh100408 · 02-11-2013, 03:39 PM

I have replaced that oring. When I tested it to see how much I could get I changed every oring I could get to and the gun has no leaks

Ragin Cajun · 02-11-2013, 05:46 PM

Is your bolt and can stock?

Wastedslayer · 02-11-2013, 06:02 PM

I noticed that when I started running all HBNR (Green) Orings throughout my Can my efficiency got WAY better. Not sure if they are a little snugger or what.

Also remember that a 3500 Fill after sitting can drop 500-900 PSI when it cools down.

l1ryan1l · 02-11-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wastedslayer

I noticed that when I started running all HBNR (Green) Orings throughout my Can my efficiency got WAY better. Not sure if they are a little snugger or what.

Also remember that a 3500 Fill after sitting can drop 500-900 PSI when it cools down.

he said it's a slow fill so I wouldn't think the tank warms up a significant amount when filled

josh100408 · 02-12-2013, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun

Is your bolt and can stock?

Yeah stock 2.0,

josh100408 · 02-12-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by l1ryan1l

he said it's a slow fill so I wouldn't think the tank warms up a significant amount when filled

Yeah it takes about a good min. or min and half to fill a tank from complete empty

kostis11 · 02-12-2013, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by josh100408

Yeah it takes about a good min. or min and half to fill a tank from complete empty

a minute and a half is not a big deal

josh100408 · 02-12-2013, 03:22 AM

I know but its still fills slower then the U.S.

josh100408 · 02-12-2013, 05:25 AM

I just noticed that my bolt guide was an 8th of a turn from completely being tight. I wonder if that could be it

ipwndu · 02-12-2013, 12:27 PM

How about you just give me your gun

Lol sup bro its david

josh100408 · 02-12-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ipwndu

How about you just give me your gun

Lol sup bro its david

No just cause you have hk avatar

l1ryan1l · 02-12-2013, 02:53 PM

Lol^ and maybe that could be it.

josh100408 · 02-12-2013, 04:10 PM

I just re-tested it with about 3400 in my tank and the same bore size and I got 6 3/4 of a pod. I noticed that my back cap was a little too loose or wiggly, or maybe they are just suppose to be like that. Never really paid any attention to it.

poopresearch · 02-12-2013, 11:26 PM

The position of the bolt guide could potentially cause efficiency problems. It controls the timing of the air being released down the barrel. I know the shocker guys use adjustable bolt guides to improve efficiency.

The current numbers sound right on.

josh100408 · 02-13-2013, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by poopresearch

The position of the bolt guide could potentially cause efficiency problems. It controls the timing of the air being released down the barrel. I know the shocker guys use adjustable bolt guides to improve efficiency.

The current numbers sound right on.

For a 77 dura? I thought I could at least get about 10 out of that tank

poopresearch · 02-13-2013, 09:25 AM

^^^

Most likely you are losing a little efficiency by running a 691 back because most paint is smaller than that these days. With that said, 7ish pods is probably about right for a 77ci tank filled to 3400 psi. If you manage to fill that sucker up to ~4500psi you'll be getting those 10 pods.

josh100408 · 02-14-2013, 12:07 PM

Cool thanks I play in Europe and we never shoot more then 6 and thats if the game goes completely in the other teams favor but its just nice to know there is nothing wrong with it