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Old 02-10-2013, 09:40 PM #1
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Ways to blow your Co2/HPA tank off

I and many others are scared ****less to touch our tanks because of the videos and stories that go around about tanks flying off because of improper assembly/disassembly. Could you please comment the do's and dont's about taking off tanks and what not. Thanks in advance!

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Old 02-10-2013, 10:00 PM #2
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No need to be afraid!! When screwing on a tank there are safety features so your take doesnt fly off or blow up. The first thing is every tank has a burst disk. The burst disk is set up to blow off all the pressure in the tank once it reaches a certain pressure. As for tanks flying off, that wont happen unless you put lube on the INSIDE of the bonnet of the tank where the air is coming out.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:04 PM #3
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No need to be afraid!! When screwing on a tank there are safety features so your take doesnt fly off or blow up. The first thing is every tank has a burst disk. The burst disk is set up to blow off all the pressure in the tank once it reaches a certain pressure. As for tanks flying off, that wont happen unless you put lube on the INSIDE of the bonnet of the tank where the air is coming out.
I don't believe Co2 tanks do.

If the tank is in good visual condition and is in Hydro you should be good.

If they are Co2 tanks you will not even be able to fill them yourself.
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Co2 tanks won't do that. You'd have to be idiotic to blow a tank off your gun.
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Just be careful when you're unscrewing your tank from your gun. Make sure the regulator is actually coming free of the gun, not the tank coming off of the regulator. I've seen it happen a few times and thankfully the person realized it was happening before the pressure was released.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:42 PM #6
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I don't believe Co2 tanks do.
If you're referring to burst discs, yes, all modern CO2 tanks used for paintball have them.


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Just be careful when you're unscrewing your tank from your gun. Make sure the regulator is actually coming free of the gun, not the tank coming off of the regulator. I've seen it happen a few times and thankfully the person realized it was happening before the pressure was released.
If you're worried about doing this, one thing you can do is use paint or nail polish to paint a stripe between your tank and regulator. Watch this stripe as it you unscrew the tank- if it becomes a broken line you'll know the tank is coming unthreaded. Most CO2 tanks you buy new these days will come with this stripe prepainted.

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Also, as a bit of reassurance, know that both CO2 valves and HPA regulators have a bleed hole drilled into their threaded section that will become exposed if you start to unscrew the valve/regulator from the tank. When this happens, all the gas in the tank will safely, but quickly vent from this hole rather than allow the tank to rocket off. I've been playing for 16 years seen this happen twice, and while it can be startling it shouldn't hurt anyone.

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Old 02-11-2013, 12:43 AM #7
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NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER PUT OIL IN YOUR AIR TANK!

That is a big one that usually causes tanks exploding on people. Petroleum based oil tends to ignite/detonate at the pressures the air tanks are exposed to. Only used approved lubricants, such as silicone.
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:45 AM #8
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:52 PM #9
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Yup...keep oil out of the tanks. If you put oil into a high pressure air tank, you've basically created a diesel engine piston. It will burn and possibly blow your tank up. At the least your burst disk.

Now....most tanks don't really blow up. They take off like a rocket because someone screws the valve or regulator off of the actual tank. A deadly rocket I might add.

Step one before taking a tank off of your gun. Turn off your air/CO2 first. Then shoot the excess out of the gun in a safe place. This will make the tanks come off a LOT easier and almost eliminate the chance of you doing something wrong. If you don't have a gun with an on/off knob to turn off the air/CO2 then unscrew the tank one and a half rotations, and stop. This will usually be enough to turn off the pin valve on the tank itself. Now you can shoot the extra air/CO2 out of your gun. Once it's all out, screw the tank out the rest of the way.

Step Two......as you unscrew the tank, always look at it and make sure it's coming off properly. If there is a lot of resistance and it's hard for some reason, then stop and look to see what's up. Be calm and figure things out.

If you're unsure at any time, ask someone.
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Yea almost had a problem years ago when i was unscrewing a tank off my gun. Luckily i noticed i was unscrewing the tank off the regulator itself and stopped. BE CAREFUL THIS SPORT HAS MANY HAZARDS IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:51 PM #11
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I and many others are scared ****less to touch our tanks because of the videos and stories that go around about tanks flying off because of improper assembly/disassembly. Could you please comment the do's and dont's about taking off tanks and what not. Thanks in advance!
Use HPA , never put oil near the fill nipple . Don't use Teflon tape on your tanks .

Never double burst disk a tank to stop a leak . Some people do this and this is where alot of exploding tanks come in .

Never pressurize a tank do don't bring a filled tank on an airplane or in a submarine .

Keep your tanks in areas between 32-80 degrees when storing .
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Old 02-11-2013, 05:25 PM #12
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Just be careful when you're unscrewing your tank from your gun. Make sure the regulator is actually coming free of the gun, not the tank coming off of the regulator. I've seen it happen a few times and thankfully the person realized it was happening before the pressure was released.
the regulator on your tank has a safety measure built in in case this happens. there is a groove along the threaded area of the regulators "stem" that once unscrews so far, vents the air out the tank via that hole.

....doesnt mean it wont make you pee a little if it happens though. same with burst disks. loud hissing noises are good....that means the safety measures are working lol. if you ever hear a loud pop in game and air starts gushing out, stay cool, do go throwing your gear out of panic and breaking something. theres a vid on youtube from another pb site where his burst disk blew and he actually got it on camera. hes also got a vid of the safety measure for when the reg unscews too.


its extremely rare for tanks to go flying off. youd basically have to find a way of breaking the regulator completely off....so dont hit it with a sledgehammer and youll be ok. also these things are rated to twice what we fill them too, so they wont just explode either.

not dropping them on concrete or rocks is good too. wont go boom, but might chip the coating enough it could fail its next hydrotest.
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:53 PM #13
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Look on youtube. Guys shoot paintball tanks with real guns, and they dont even put a hole in the tank.After a couple shots, they just put a hole in them and air rushes out.

Don't worry about it. I've been playing for 1 year, and never seen a burst disk. The worst I've ever seen is someone's tank leaking at the fill nipple.

Just focus on having fun and you'll be fine!


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Old 02-11-2013, 07:29 PM #14
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the regulator on your tank has a safety measure built in in case this happens. there is a groove along the threaded area of the regulators "stem" that once unscrews so far, vents the air out the tank via that hole.

....doesnt mean it wont make you pee a little if it happens though. same with burst disks. loud hissing noises are good....that means the safety measures are working lol. if you ever hear a loud pop in game and air starts gushing out, stay cool, do go throwing your gear out of panic and breaking something. theres a vid on youtube from another pb site where his burst disk blew and he actually got it on camera. hes also got a vid of the safety measure for when the reg unscews too.


its extremely rare for tanks to go flying off. youd basically have to find a way of breaking the regulator completely off....so dont hit it with a sledgehammer and youll be ok. also these things are rated to twice what we fill them too, so they wont just explode either.

not dropping them on concrete or rocks is good too. wont go boom, but might chip the coating enough it could fail its next hydrotest.

Didn't know that, hopefully I won't ever get to see it used though
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^^that video is natural selection at its finest.

that is a ****ing terrible idea.

for all we know he just filled them to 120 psi with his home shop compressor, so no, its not going to have that violent of a reaction. i do not for a second believe that the first one that gets a hole in it had 4000psi in it. if it did it would whip around a lot more than that. and at 1:50 it definately explodes, plus a few seconds after that you can hear them say "its still going", and then they mention it spinning for nearly 10 seconds afterwards. it is definately possible for a full co2 tank to go flying away when the valve gets blown off. its what happened in one of the 2 paintball related deaths. again we dont know how much co2 was in it, it could have been nearly empty. a full co2 tank is still near 1000psi on a warm day.

it doesnt have to be a "big" explosion to put some shrapnel into your arm.
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The only way a tank "explodes" is when the pressure inside exceeds what the metal/fiber on the tank can contain. Even if you shoot it with a bullet, it won't "explode". In almost all tank related accidents the tanks rupture and take off like a rocket. Sounds minor but a 2 pound tank hitting your head at 80 miles an hour is more than enough to kill you.

There are plenty of safety bleeds and such but......never depend on someone's engineering to keep you safe. Stay calm......pay attention and you'll be fine.
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