Exactly! lol. I didn't even get a, "Yah, I understand. Thanks for apologizing". Hopefully I can at least explain the characterization of this fellow to the judge. That he was being confrontational himself and not being reasonable enough to explain the situation.
It'd be much like a third party citizen seeing you walk into a gated yard to drop off some cookies to a neighbor and then saying, "Hey, I'm the next door neighbor and see that not so visible sign that says 'no trespassing'? Since you criminally trespassed I need to see your ID."
I can't think of a reason why you would need to at that point, to a stranger, because what keeps me from accusing someone of a crime and then demanding their ID.
From everything that I can read I can refuse to hand over my ID to the police unless being detained on reasonable suspicion. And even then, in Oregon, I can ID myself verbally until they arrest me. As long as I give them my real name and don't lie about it there's nothing they can charge me with (beyond the original crime).
The private citizen that stopped me can ask for my name. . .which I gave him fully. I just thought it was beyond his reach to take down all my information. It'd be a really easy way to create a type of identity theft just be being accused of a crime.
Trespassing in Oregon is pretty broad and is automatically a class C misdemeanor.
Criminal trespass in the second degree
(1) A person commits the crime of criminal trespass in the second degree if the person enters or remains unlawfully in a motor vehicle or in or upon premises.
(2) Criminal trespass in the second degree is a Class C misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 §139; 1999 c.1040 §9]
So you enter a private premises without prior consent = class C misdemeanor.
I might have found a loophole with "Oregon Recreational Use" as the owners have to do this (which wasn't done AT the gate but a distance off the road nowhere near a gate. I'll have to run out there and take pictures of the place to just make sure:
2) A landowner or an agent of the landowner may close the privately owned land of the landowner by posting notice as follows:
(a) For land through which the public has no right of way, the landowner or agent must place a notice at each outer gate and normal point of access to the land, including both sides of a body of water that crosses the land wherever the body of water intersects an outer boundary line. The notice must be placed on a post, structure or natural object in the form of a sign or a blaze of paint. If a blaze of paint is used, it must consist of at least 50 square inches of fluorescent orange paint, except that when metal fence posts are used, approximately the top six inches of the fence post must be painted. If a sign is used, the sign:
(A) Must be no smaller than eight inches in height and 11 inches in width;
(B) Must contain the words "Closed to Entry" or words to that effect in letters no less than one inch in height; and
(C) Must display the name, business address and phone number, if any, of the landowner or agent of the landowner.