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Old 05-04-2012, 09:34 PM #1
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Coming soon/teaser thread

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...0#post74322620

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Sorry guys but we currently don't allow "coming soon" parts in News. Too many of these just never get made, are seriously delayed or the specs change too much before release.

We want to see new parts in News, but wait until they are ready to launch to post.
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2. Please do not post Rumors.
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...1#post51188081
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...2#post47520102

So what exempt the PE from the rules?
As of now they are no more then just rumors with "teaser" pic and PE "fanboy's" attacking others.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3801236
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3768702
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:55 AM #2
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So, standing up against PE is something you guys don't do?
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:17 AM #3
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That's a tough one. There are a lot of new products that aren't particularly newsworthy and other products that might be more newsworthy even if they don't ever see the light of day. We don't want the Paintball News section to become the unfounded rumors forum. And we never want it to become the "preorder" forum. Or even the forum where products that are years out get discussed. We certainly never want News to be the place where people get the word out about a product they are working on so they can then in turn sell preorders and raise the money to make that product. That's a lot of risk for our users. We don't want them to have to risk their money like that. Sadly, that used to happen too much.

However, some new products are just too big. People want a place to discuss interesting products and they keep posting them in News. We sometimes still get burnt (everyone enjoying their Angel Eyes goggles?). The flip side of that is the eFlex goggles from Empire. They aren't out yet, but they aren't a rumor either. They will make it to market and it would be silly to stop them from being posted.

And no one from PE asked for that to be posted or stay up. They suggest things (like no PMing users selling new items for a potentially better price) but have never told us how to do things and they have been very polite and easy to work with even when we didn't do things their way. We don't always agree but they've taken it well when we had to turn them down. I wish more companies were that professional.

We do allow upcoming guns to be posted in News once there is some info on them. The SAR12, Vapor, Clone GT, MVP and others can be found on the first few pages of News. Exalt is not bringing their gun to market so it made sense to close that thread. However, we would allow that DM9 thread.

We have been actively trying to loosen up the News rules without just allowing everything. If you have some ideas on that, now's a great time to share them.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:28 AM #4
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We do allow upcoming guns to be posted in News once there is some info on them. The SAR12, Vapor, Clone GT, MVP and others can be found on the first few pages of News. Exalt is not bringing their gun to market so it made sense to close that thread. However, we would allow that DM9 thread.
Since we have talked about this before, ill just up this thread for my next concern over the same topic.


No info, no specs, nothing more then marker with tape on it and that gets to slide?
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...4#post77046354
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:02 AM #5
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I updated my response for you:

Some unreleased products are just too big to deny that they are newsworthy. People want a place to discuss interesting products and they keep posting them in News. We sometimes still get burnt (everyone enjoying their Angel Eyes goggles?). The flip side of that is the Vanquish. It is coming out and if it wasn't for PbNation, many people would have no idea.

And no one from Empire asked for that to be posted or stay up. In fact, Empire has asked us to remove things before and we try to politely decline.

We do allow upcoming guns to be posted in News once there is some info on them. The Vanquish, Impulse, new MacDev electronics and others can be found on the first few pages of News. Exalt is still not bringing their gun to market so it made sense to close that thread.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:57 PM #6
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Another one:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=4034442

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We do allow upcoming guns to be posted in News once there is some info on them.
Do you have info that would allow this to stay up?
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:00 PM #7
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Yup. You'll find out this next week.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:12 PM #8
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So the thread should be closed till then?
That's your rules isn't it?


How could I forget about Dye, well I was reminded. They are in the same boat with teaser thread and no info:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=4023638
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:35 PM #9
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So you think the GSL is a rumor or won't actually be released? I can assure you it is not a rumor and will come out.

I don't see how closing the thread would accomplish anything. You'll find out more very soon. And like I said, we are actively trying to loosen up those rules, not tighten them. If you have some ideas on how we can make them more accommodating, that's where you could be helpful. Here's a hint: if it is on the homepage, we've already decided it's acceptable.

You had a much better argument with the 2014 Dye gun. You missed your opportunity there. The fact that people didn't even know it was an NT or DM was a little sketch.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:47 PM #10
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It's not that I wanna find out sooner, it's that rules seem to be subjective.

If rumor's are allowed, then edit the rule page. If not,then rules are rules right?

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Maybe have a sub-forum in the News section for Rumors(Rumor Mill). That way threads like teaser/rumors can start there and die there. But if they come true or have real information, someone can slide them over to the News section.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:03 PM #11
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So which thread is a rumor one?
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As of right now it would seem the GSL, as it's just a picture with people assuming what it could be. Though it's fairly obvious, but there is no "real" proof/info.

Dye thread appears to have been proven that it's a DM14, instead of a NT.


In the past you guys have closed threads for simply only having pictures and assumptions. But since you are flexing the rules, then so be it.
It's your rules and you're running the show, so it's your ball game to control.
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I can assure you once again, the GSL is no rumor.
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I can assure you once again, the GSL is no rumor.
And I can believe you, but as I've quoted by you.

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We do allow upcoming guns to be posted in News once there is some info on them.
So a picture and assumptions are enough info to make it stay?

Now Im just curious what makes a thread a legit thread to not be considered a rumor thread. What are the guide lines for one needs to follow for a thread to not be considered a rumor thread?
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Usually a picture of a production product is enough. Some details are nice. Where it gets difficult is when a manufacturer is testing a potential product. We don't want to blast it all over News and make it old news for when they actually do release it. Or worse yet, it never makes it to production and people think it does.

It's never going to be easily defined black or white. We are doing or best mixing trying to do what's best for manufacturers and players alike. It rarely makes everyone happy.

Let us know if you can think of a better way to define it and help out.

And yes, we do have something special in the works for the GSL.
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Also not a rumor. Something is happening in 2.5 days. It may even be sitting on my desk...

And lots of things have changed here in the last couple years. We try to be more receptive to upcoming things since (like that thread shows) our users really like them on the site. You were on the only person to report it and thousands of people clicked it.

The old thread that started this conversation would probably be allowed today. And if they contacted me beforehand, then we almost definitely would have found a place for it on PbNation.
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