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Old 02-02-2013, 06:14 PM #358
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:01 PM #359
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:04 PM #360
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:42 PM #361
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:43 PM #362
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They could always make winning an event an automatic World Cup qualifier.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:26 PM #363
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:22 PM #364
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This is amazing, basically the second to last event is HUGE.

Challengers want to win it to play pro at World Cup, and Champions want to not get bumped down for it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:58 PM #365
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Heard about this on social. Still a little confused.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:02 PM #366
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Heard about this on social. Still a little confused.
Confused about what
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:03 PM #367
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Heard about this on social. Still a little confused.
And this is why the concept won't be transferable to new comers, non-paintball players, and casual spectators. It's just not easy to follow.

The overall idea sounds interesting but it seems like it's just another gimmick. In the long run this will probably grind out teams on the edge.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:22 PM #368
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Heard about this on social. Still a little confused.
Confused about what
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:26 AM #369
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Yea i dont get whats to be confused about.
Basically there are two brackets in the PRO divison.
Champions: The top 10 teams of the pro divison. These matches will appeare on the webcast and they will get all the glory. Bottom two in the end of the tournament end in challenger bracket the next tournament


Challenger: bottom 10 teams in the pro divison. These teams fight for the opportunity to compete in the Champions divison. 1st and 2nd will compete in the champions bracket next event. Also the challenger divison is a great opportunity for new teams from europe or div1 to get used to new rules and teams while still getting the chance to play against the best of the best.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:46 AM #370
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I don't know if it's included or has been said, but they might want to implement a temporary lockout when a Champion team is demoted to the Challenger league. Otherwise, the top few teams will play on the fence constantly; not that it's a bad thing, forcing lesser teams to nut up, but it will certainly lack consistency for the flip flopping teams!
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:30 PM #371
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You under-estimate the power of greed. When teams are struggling to cover the costs from event to event, I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that happen. I mean really, do CEP or Aftershock think they have a better chance at a win/check in the Pro or SP division?

I see what you're saying, but I am just curious to see how it plays out.
I can see CEP doing it but Aftershock has a successful pro heritage to uphold. No offense to the CEP dudes btw. Aftershock dropping to semi-pro would be an embarrassment to the program. I think both teams might benefit from this. Motivation to perform for every team quiet frankly. I think it should be relegation per season not per event though. It works well in the millennium series.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:51 PM #372
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I think it should move back to raceto-x so the best teams can be more obvious and the teams teetering on the bubble don't get relegated due to some weird tie breaker. It would make more sense to me and could make for some very interesting come backs.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:07 AM #373
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So what if they don't make it on the webcast? Who does this hurt?
I would really, really hate to be the guy who's spending a 1/4 of a million on player salaries
What kind of fantasy world are you living in?
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:26 AM #374
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When in paintball history did it ever happen that a team won 3 pro titles in a row, and then dropped to 9th?

Let's keep it real
Joy Division made 15th at first Millenium event and then won last four events in 2006. Ok they had a good excuse.

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You can't call this semi pro. Upper pro and lower pro. Teams get pro sponsorships so be careful what you call it.
Are you saying that every players of those teams are being paid to play?
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:29 PM #375
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Are you saying that every players of those teams are being paid to play?
I would challenge your question and say how many of today's PSP / NPPL PRO Players are being PAID to play?
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:44 PM #376
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Nice!! Good decision! It'll be critiqued as it plays out.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:21 PM #377
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so what happens when you win the challengers bracket. does it just mean your the best ****ty pro team? do you get a trophy saying that.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:22 PM #378
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You can't call this semi pro. Upper pro and lower pro. Teams get pro sponsorships so be careful what you call it.
Let the sponsors work out the terminology or create a lower level "semi-pro" sponsorship program if they have to. That's all on them. If I'm a sponsor, I'm paying based on performance and marketability anyway, not just a division name.

My 5 step plan, repeated each year....
-Create a semi-pro division and open it to all that's willing to pay.
-Only allow 10 total teams in the pro-division.
-Top 8 from pro the previous year get to stay pro, all the rest get dropped to semi-pro.
-Top 4 from D1 get promoted to semi-pro, top 2 from semi-pro get promoted to pro.
-Only rank a player as pro if they finish top 8 twice in the season.

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