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Old 02-02-2013, 06:13 PM #43
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Could be pneumatic lock out. Check it out on zdspb.com
I dont think so sam, cause he's actually swapped out all the o-rings in the bolt assembly, and the problem persists.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:16 PM #44
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I was thinking of the outter sleeve. He didn't mention those.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:21 PM #45
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ooooooo, true true. in that case, he should swap out the 2nd and 3rd 22/70's on the sleeve, but I'd swap out all 4 to be safe.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:30 PM #46
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Could be the front one causing the problem too but most likely the 2 middle. Only other thing I could think of would be inserts not being at the right length but he said he checked those. His gauge may simply be way off.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:38 PM #47
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I have replaced every outer oring too.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:41 PM #48
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Could be the front one causing the problem too but most likely the 2 middle. Only other thing I could think of would be inserts not being at the right length but he said he checked those. His gauge may simply be way off.
I thought about that too. Could also be the source of your leak.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:55 PM #49
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what kind of tank are you using, and check if your macroline is the small diameter kind.

one time i had a nxt that needed extremely high setting because it wasn't getting enough air to the gun (my macro line was too small diatmer)
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:00 PM #50
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what kind of tank are you using, and check if your macroline is the small diameter kind.

one time i had a nxt that needed extremely high setting because it wasn't getting enough air to the gun (my macro line was too small diatmer)
sounds like you had micro line, rather than macro.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:09 PM #51
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I'm using 2 fresh pieces of macro line with multiple different regs. As for tanks I am using a pmi 68 4500 tank.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:16 AM #52
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I finally got a chance to mess with the shocker again. Since I change all of the engine orings I have yet to see of I have the same fsdo results with the techt bolt. So I aired up the gun and took some shots after putting in the techt bolt. I saw my fps drop 40 fps from the lurker bolt. So I took some shots then left it aired up. When I came back to it 30 mins later and took a shot I got the same results as my lurker bolt. Fsdo so bad the ball gets stuck in the barrel. I also tested to see if when I turn the air off if the gun would hold pressure with the techt bolt, it did not. It depressurized in the same amount of time.

So the fsdo and slow leak are not bolt related. Any ideas? The only thing I haven't taken apart yet is the solenoid.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:29 AM #53
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did you try the soapy water? I'd also check your vertical HPR Gauge if you have one.
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I stuck the hpr under water and found the leak, it was coming out of one of the hpr guage port screws. I fixed the slow leak, but im still having the fsdo issue...

I also tried a new hpr guage and it gives the same reading as my current one.
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I wouldn't think that would be the source of your fsdo. I would think solenoid, manifold o-rings, solenoid inserts. That's if you changed all the sleeve o-rings, the sail o-ring, and the rear 12 guide o-ring, and the rear can 17 o-ring.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:54 PM #56
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I wouldn't think that would be the source of your fsdo. I would think solenoid, manifold o-rings, solenoid inserts. That's if you changed all the sleeve o-rings, the sail o-ring, and the rear 12 guide o-ring, and the rear can 17 o-ring.
^this. Sam shares the same idea I'm having. You've swapped all your rings out and the problem persists. That tells me its being starved for air. Has to be something with your noid. In relation to human anatomy, the noid is like a heart. Your noid may be gunked up inside, or the tiny o-rings in the manifold may need replacing. You said you checked your inserts as far as depth is concerned, but the tiny o-rings located on the inserts themselves may also be the problem. Do you have friends who also shoot shockers? Maybe one of them will allow u to test with their noid. And if the problem is indeed your noid, you can find them in the b/s/t trades for descant prices. I've also seen them on eBay for between 40-60 bux. I'd advise getting one just because. Its a great spare part to have.
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I can take apart the noid and service it. I just didn't want to do that unless I had to due to all of the very small parts. I also have spare orings for the inserts, but those orings look fine. And I'm the only person locally who even owns a shocker.

And I have change the rear guide and can orings. Even the sail oring. Every oring on te bolt has been replaced. I will service the solenoid tonight and see if that fixes it.
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Did you ever find exactly where the leak seemed to be coming from after you fixed the Asa plug?
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The leak was coming out of the threads of the asa plug. It just didn't fit snug, i could tighten it until it fell into the Reg. So I put a plug in there that threaded till it was tight.
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Don't know if someone mentioned this yet, but some people have had better results by backing out their guide a quarter turn
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That is something I have yet to try. I'll give it a try before taking apart the solenoid.
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i hate to thread jack but i don't want to create a new thread about the same problem.

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i hate to thread jack but i don't want to create a new thread about the same problem.

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Have you gone through all of the suggestions already listed here?
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