[TRodric]

Which is better?

[nique303]

Dye of course

[DM5 Beast]

...comes into a Dye forum and asks if Dye or Planet Eclipse is better...hmmm..lol. Just giving you a hard time. If you want a quieter smoother shot of then you want Dye. If you want air efficiency and a louder shot then go with Eclipse.

[tinopaintball]

depends what you are looking for in a marker, there is no BEST, they are all good at something.

I vote Eclipse

[02firehawk555]

Personally I like the DM's better then the Ego but if your joining a team and are a back player go with the Ego. My next gun purchase will be a DM.

[**Entropy**]

My personal opinion is that Dye markers perform better on the whole. I tech markers all the time and what I've found is that PE markers tend to be more reliable in the sense that even if they are somewhat broken they shoot...maybe not straight but they shoot. Where as Dye markers tend to be in my opinion better overall shooters but if they go down, they will not shoot.

That said I like the GEO 3, I've not been a fan of any of the Ego's and I've owned a few, I haven't been a fan of the Geo, Geo+, or Geo 2 but having shot the Geo3 and having never had to repair one I would say if EP has a winner, that is it.

I think despite the lack of a OLED the Dye markers handle better, shoot smoother and have a better shot pattern in general.

[ProtoSkillz]

Originally Posted by **Entropy**

My personal opinion is that Dye markers perform better on the whole. I tech markers all the time and what I've found is that PE markers tend to be more reliable in the sense that even if they are somewhat broken they shoot...maybe not straight but they shoot. Where as Dye markers tend to be in my opinion better overall shooters but if they go down, they will not shoot.

That said I like the GEO 3, I've not been a fan of any of the Ego's and I've owned a few, I haven't been a fan of the Geo, Geo+, or Geo 2 but having shot the Geo3 and having never had to repair one I would say if EP has a winner, that is it.

I think despite the lack of a OLED the Dye markers handle better, shoot smoother and have a better shot pattern in general.

Agree 100%. I'm not a tech but most problems I've had with my DM4 DMC and NT11 i was able to fix. And most of the time problems are due to o-rings so the maintanence is very simple, even if it has to be done often. And they shoot so smoothly.

[speedy2k4]

If you asked me a couple years ago, I would have said Dye hands down. But Eclipse has done more to improve their markers than Dye has lately, their resale doesn't drop off quite as bad, they offer two top of the line markers to choose from. Both companies make quality parts and both of their guns perform well. And when it comes down to the little things, Eclipse is starting to get the edge. And I still think it's ridiculous that Dye doesn't attend NPPL events.

All that being said, I personally prefer the feel of a DM than an Ego/Geo. Also, this isn't a good question to ask and even a worse place to ask it.

[Blusylver]

Originally Posted by speedy2k4

If you asked me a couple years ago, I would have said Dye hands down. But Eclipse has done more to improve their markers than Dye has lately, their resale doesn't drop off quite as bad, they offer two top of the line markers to choose from. Both companies make quality parts and both of their guns perform well. And when it comes down to the little things, Eclipse is starting to get the edge. And I still think it's ridiculous that Dye doesn't attend NPPL events.

All that being said, I personally prefer the feel of a DM than an Ego/Geo. Also, this isn't a good question to ask and even a worse place to ask it.

Kinda hard to improve perfection. The dm platform has been perfected since the dm9.

[iquadra]

I prefer dm's because the UL2 frame sits perfectly in my hands and I love how they shoot, maintenance is really nothing once you know what to do.

I am not a huge fan of ego's because of how loud they are compared to other poppits on the market.

Geo's are great guns but they don't have that UL2 frame feel to me and I feel like I play best when I am most comfortable.

[speedy2k4]

Originally Posted by Blusylver

Kinda hard to improve perfection. The dm platform has been perfected since the dm9.

Even with the newest models, trigger tolerances are hit or miss, the tool-less grips can be really difficult to remove when new/cold, the reg is difficult to take apart, the airport knob is prone to breaking, the reg sleeve is prone to tearing, the eye pipe is prone to cracking, etc.

It's a great marker, but it's not perfect. Most of those issues are minor, but most are also easily fixed. Of course there is probably more money to be made by making 1 or 2 small changes and marketing a new model every year.

I prefer Dye guns, but it's easy for me to understand why someone else might not these days.

[neverexpendable]

It depends drop an ego and the frame bends and brakes or keep a dm lubed and have.it shoot flawless for years

[PalmHarborPirates (Banned)]

I'd buy an ego 11-10 and buy a dm6-7 so you get the best of both worlds!

[speedy2k4]

Originally Posted by neverexpendable

It depends drop an ego and the frame bends and brakes or keep a dm lubed and have.it shoot flawless for years

Never seen an Ego frame bend just from being dropped, they will break if you fall on them though. Which if you play on NPPL turf will happen eventually.

I've seen several bent/broken UL frames too, it is a bit more difficult to do though.

[eyeownyu]

Originally Posted by Blusylver

Kinda hard to improve perfection. The dm platform has been perfected since the dm7.

fixed

[Funny Old Guy]

Originally Posted by DM5 Beast

...comes into a Dye forum and asks if Dye or Planet Eclipse is better...hmmm..lol. Just giving you a hard time. If you want a quieter smoother shot of then you want Dye. If you want air efficiency and a louder shot then go with Eclipse.

No better way to explain it! So I got both.

DM12 = smooth, quiet, ball on ball, great with brittle paint
09 Ego = Loud, air efficient, out of my gear bag reliable, simple interface

My favorite analogy: I like chocolate ice cream. You like vanilla ice cream.
No bad choice here. It's all ice cream!

[GUN_YOU_DOWN_3]

i have owned both an Ego and DM, in my opinion, i've enjoyed the Ego very much, i could go forever and a day playing because it was so efficient. Now my new team has a sponsorship with dye and we shoot DM13's. I cannot complain at all, ball on ball accuracy, light + sexy, overall, get a DM