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Old 01-30-2013, 10:04 PM #22
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Need to play on better fields! Like actual real love recents! I think the should advertise paintball in commercials but with all the safety and stuff
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:00 PM #23
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Not gonna happen, scenario players put tourney players to shame when it comes to the amount of paint they shoot.
umm....most scenario players i know shoot a case, MAYBE two per event. at a speedball tourny i will shoot at least two if not 4+....also scenario players typically play in a continuous game, tourny players dont
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:35 AM #24
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I'd like to see in-mask comms that everyone can talk with each other and commanders can see where their troops are.

I'd also like to see perfectly spherical paintballs that don't dimple.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:26 AM #25
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So I hear everyone saying that the paintball industry has hit a plateau in technology whether it be marker design, paintballs, masks, ect..

I am rather new to the paintball scene, but I can see how this can be true.

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However, what else is there to improve? What else do people want to be done as far as technology goes?

Discuss....


My Opinion: Paintball technology does not seem to be lacking, and rather than try to make "better" markers the industry should focus on finding ways to make paintball cheaper to play.

If the industry could focus on reducing the cost of markers, equipment, and paintballs then it would allow more players to enter the game, bring old players back, and grow the industry as a whole.
The only ways to make paintball markers/equipment "better" would be to lower the prices of everything to make it more affordable.

Example: A DM13 Costs $1,300.00, new. New "technology" is added to them, thus making the price worth it (This goes for all companies). But in fact, most of that technology ISN'T new; it's just renamed or slightly reworked from the previous generations.

The only company who's decided to stop releasing the same thing every year is Planet Eclipse. Jack Wood isn't going to waste everyone's time and money when he knows that he doesn't have any ground breaking technology that's worth the money.

The only new technology being added to paintball markers right now seems to be ease of access of internals for cleaning and maintenance, as well as smoothness and air flow precision within the marker...

But every marker does the same thing; shoot paintballs. Poppet valve markers generally kick a little more, but have greater air efficiency. Open bolt spoolies are/can be MUCH smoother but are air hogs.

Until one of the big companies can officially close the gap between these two, making the "ultimate" marker that combines all qualities into one, "omnipresent" marker, nothing is really going to change.

Otherwise, the only things they could do for the high prices of high-end markers would be to include full barrel kits and more-upgraded boards, I suppose.

I definitely didn't cover everything to completely /thread this thread, but there's a small generalization of it.

Also, there are like 315,617 threads like this
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:28 AM #26
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I'd like to see in-mask comms that everyone can talk with each other and commanders can see where their troops are.

I'd also like to see perfectly spherical paintballs that don't dimple.
just saw this and

yes, lets bring military technology that isn't 100% battle-tested/developed to paintball and airsoft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Warrior
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revolutions in paintball? none or little left to do? why do we have air pressure
provide energy to use em?what about magnetic coil propulsion?

yeah, before you respond
"because the tech isnt advanced yet or is inefficient to do so.
or the current method is the most efficient of available means"
of course. but when that changes...

we mostly refined current tech to its best, ideas will come that can
change things and technology can be implemented to offer alternatives.
but that takes time.

so be happy we have what we have. work to make whats here better.
an awesome pump for just above 100? tourney electros under 200? magfed
markers that look the part that dont cost 400?cases of paint under 50 bucks
in some parts? loaders that arent absolute crap flooding the market as a fill in from
the low end to highend. tanks that are reasonably priced, masks that are
adequately priced, (i spent 60 dollars on a piece of crap 8 years ago.)
if youre spending above 55 youre looking at a good mask for the most part.

we need more people to play!

that is one improvement that we havent refined as a whole and one we
can have direct influence in.
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revolutions in paintball? none or little left to do? why do we have air pressure
provide energy to use em?what about magnetic coil propulsion?

yeah, before you respond
"because the tech isnt advanced yet or is inefficient to do so.
or the current method is the most efficient of available means"
of course. but when that changes...

we mostly refined current tech to its best, ideas will come that can
change things and technology can be implemented to offer alternatives.
but that takes time.

so be happy we have what we have. work to make whats here better.
an awesome pump for just above 100? tourney electros under 200? magfed
markers that look the part that dont cost 400?cases of paint under 50 bucks
in some parts? loaders that arent absolute crap flooding the market as a fill in from
the low end to highend. tanks that are reasonably priced, masks that are
adequately priced, (i spent 60 dollars on a piece of crap 8 years ago.)
if youre spending above 55 youre looking at a good mask for the most part.

we need more people to play!

that is one improvement that we havent refined as a whole and one we
can have direct influence in.
Big dot here.

More people = more money, which hopefully would make the super nice and lovely CEO's of the bigger companies to release gear for cheaper.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:02 PM #29
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revolutions in paintball? none or little left to do? why do we have air pressure
provide energy to use em?what about magnetic coil propulsion?

yeah, before you respond
"because the tech isnt advanced yet or is inefficient to do so.
or the current method is the most efficient of available means"
of course. but when that changes...
Are you planning on putting metal into the paintballs? How would you use a magnetic coil, or essentially "railgun" otherwise.
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I think he's talking about using magnetic forces to propel the ball?
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Are you planning on putting metal into the paintballs? How would you use a magnetic coil, or essentially "railgun" otherwise.
well water has magnetic proporties, just weak.

frogs are mostly water.

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well water has magnetic proporties, just weak.

frogs are mostly water.

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Old 02-01-2013, 12:06 PM #33
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We have the best internals.
(You can't get more advanced at the moment than micro-controlled pneumatics)

We have the best propellant
(HPA. To go with any liquid induces vapour issues, and any other gas would be environment issue)

So the only thing left is the ball itself. First-Strike I don't think is the answer.

It HAS to change. We absolutely need something new.

We need something more consistent and more resilient, with that it can shoot straighter and farther.

Hydrotec was on the right course. But they haven't gone anywhere in the past 2 years.

If something isn't done, a highly advanced laser tag or VR/AR game will drown out paintball.

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Yeah if we can get paintballs to shoot farther and straighter while still breaking on the targets that would be huge.
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First strike rounds are a step in the right direction. Sure they're expensive, but so is every new thing. Imagine how many people would use these if they could mass produce to cut price. Truly revolutionary.

The cheap high ends nowadays is HUGE. Going out and spending a grand on a marker is senseless to me when you can pick up a similar performing used marker for a fraction of price.
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whats next you ask? Simple. no loaders. just antenna that sticks out of the feedneck, but just an antenna instead of a hopper how will that work you ask? simple it will be the reciver for the new paint teleportation system. you have a large hopper at the side of the field, holds like 2000+ rounds of perfectly shaped non dimpled paintballs, at the bottom of this hopper is a teleporter, the paint from the hopper outside the field.Wich is connected to your wireless reciver, wich will transport your paint to your gun wich will eventually send via compressed air the paintball at the target of your choice.
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I think saying marker technology doesn't need to be improved is a cop out. We still have guns that shoot paint in broad groupings no further than 100 feet effectively. Most guns behave badly in certain weather and they're unreliable because they're still using orings and mediocre circuit boards. Or rather, we're pushing circuit boards to their limits by exposing them to extreme conditions and hoping for the best.

I mean, orings and weather wouldn't nearly be the hindrance it is if companies would mill their products with better tolerances and all we had to use was oil....I mean look at vikes and excals.
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whats next you ask? Simple. no loaders. just antenna that sticks out of the feedneck, but just an antenna instead of a hopper how will that work you ask? simple it will be the reciver for the new paint teleportation system. you have a large hopper at the side of the field, holds like 2000+ rounds of perfectly shaped non dimpled paintballs, at the bottom of this hopper is a teleporter, the paint from the hopper outside the field.Wich is connected to your wireless reciver, wich will transport your paint to your gun wich will eventually send via compressed air the paintball at the target of your choice.
Not sure if srs or trolling. Hoping you're trolling and not srs because it's all fake. Also, work on your spelling sir.
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Yeah if we can get paintballs to shoot farther and straighter while still breaking on the targets that would be huge.
Well there's the opportunity for that but because of safety reasons paintballs fps is limited. And there for paintball guns only shoot so far.
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Paintball is trying to reach a younger and younger audience every year. History has shown, paintball started as a men's/young men's sport. From there it evolved to a teen game. Now its reached (IMO the worst of its phases) a kids sport. Going to the field and seeing "Paintball Moms" is the worst thing thats ever happened to the sport. They're wondering why the industry is shrinking? Its because it has become associated with 10 year old punks who have their moms by their gear. Men dont want to play a childs game. Target your sport towards people who spend their own money to play (not their parents) and you might see growth in popularity.
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Well there's the opportunity for that but because of safety reasons paintballs fps is limited. And there for paintball guns only shoot so far.
I think he's referring to the actual paintball. (Or at least it should more aimed towards this.)

But to be honest, there isn't too much that I can think of to make the ball itself better.
  1. A good shell:paint ratio helps the ball travel better. (Weights)
  2. Less visible seam on the center of the ball means better aerodynamics.
  3. Materials used to make the balls.
  4. Temperatures also play a huge roll in how the ball performs on the field/off the field. As most of us know, there are different "blends" of paintballs. Some are made for general play. (I use these during the summer, for example.) Winter blends may have thicker shells so as not to become too brittle, and they also may be made with slightly different products/materials. (And so on, and so forth.)

I may have missed stuff, anyone can fill in.
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