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View Poll Results: Is Obama preparing to us the military on the American people?
Absolutely, he has desired to do this for a while now 8 33.33%
I tend to think Obama would do this, but not sure he is pushing to do this now 5 20.83%
Not totally convinced that Obama would go this far. Maybe, but need more information 7 29.17%
I refuse to believe that Presient Obama would declare war on the American citizens 4 16.67%
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:20 PM #64
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Not at all, but where's your uproar and finger pointing about the previous administration that implemented the drones?
I'm all for bad guys getting **** on from hellfire missiles.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:32 PM #65
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I'm all for bad guys getting **** on from hellfire missiles.
I guess you didn't hear most people that are killed by them are children and civilians. How would you like it if pakistan used drone strikes against the "bad guys" in the US and you happened to be standing near one, getting blown up in the process?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:43 PM #66
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It would suck but there is that whole association thing. Stats to substantiate the most and how many were human shields?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:45 PM #67
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It would suck but there is that whole association thing. Stats to substantiate the most and how many were human shields?
"According to the Pakistani authorities, 60 cross-border predator strikes in the period from January 2006 to April 2009 killed 14 wanted al-Qaeda leaders and 687 Pakistani civilians. In a 2009 opinion article, Daniel L. Byman of the Brookings Institution wrote that drone strikes may have killed "10 or so civilians" for every "mid- and high-ranking [al Qaeda and Taliban] leader."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:46 PM #68
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Whoa, it's almost like that was before Obama was in office.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:48 PM #69
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Whoa, it's almost like that was before Obama was in office.
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.p...4#post77907354

Also more people were killed with drone strikes with obama as president than before he was. Look at the statistics table on the wiki page to see for yourself.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:50 PM #70
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Numbers for the Obama administration.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:52 PM #71
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298 under obama vs 52 under bush. 6 times as much in only half the time. At that rate, the amount of drone strikes under obama by the end of his 2nd term will be equivalent to the amount of drone strikes if bush was president for 96 years.

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298 under obama vs 52 under bush. 6 times as much in only half the time. At that rate, the amount of drone strikes under obama by the end of his 2nd term will be equivalent to the amount of drone strikes if bush was president for 96 years.
And what's wrong with this? Killing the enemy without putting our soldiers in danger is a good things. How about statistics for the number of civilians killed and not just people killed?

Granted, 25% civilian kill rate is pretty ****ing terrible. But I'm more interested in statistics between presidency.

Then again, I don't expect Obama to win this. At all. I just want to point out that your chart is pretty much useless. It definitely negates this post of yours:

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I guess you didn't hear most people that are killed by them are children and civilians. How would you like it if pakistan used drone strikes against the "bad guys" in the US and you happened to be standing near one, getting blown up in the process?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:42 AM #75
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And what's wrong with this? Killing the enemy without putting our soldiers in danger is a good things. How about statistics for the number of civilians killed and not just people killed?

Granted, 25% civilian kill rate is pretty ****ing terrible. But I'm more interested in statistics between presidency.

Then again, I don't expect Obama to win this. At all. I just want to point out that your chart is pretty much useless. It definitely negates this post of yours:
I already answered that:

"According to the Pakistani authorities, 60 cross-border predator strikes in the period from January 2006 to April 2009 killed 14 wanted al-Qaeda leaders and 687 Pakistani civilians. In a 2009 opinion article, Daniel L. Byman of the Brookings Institution wrote that drone strikes may have killed "10 or so civilians" for every "mid- and high-ranking [al Qaeda and Taliban] leader."

And given that the drone strikes intensified after 2009, it would be foolish to think the civilian death rate would have dropped since then.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:50 AM #76
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:50 AM #77
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Killing 176 kids isn't very presidential if you ask me.
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Killing 176 kids isn't very presidential if you ask me.
Especially when he forgets to cry about it on TV.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:50 AM #79
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Especially when he forgets to cry about it on TV.
He'll probably win another Nobel Peace Prize for all his "humanitarian work" in Pakistan.
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He'll probably win another Nobel Peace Prize for all his "humanitarian work" in Pakistan.

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