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Old 01-24-2013, 06:32 PM #1240
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:16 AM #1242
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this is kinda cool and if proven it would be another nail in the coffin of religion: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21499765
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:05 PM #1243
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this is kinda cool and if proven it would be another nail in the coffin of religion: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21499765
Judeo Christianity perhaps. This would seem to prove, if accurate, the cyclical views of the Indo-Europeans. Bury some, help others such is life.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:12 AM #1244
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there's no telling what kind of universe will come out of it though...
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:10 AM #1245
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Cyclical does not necessarily mean identical. I do think this new universe would be similar, in essence, to our own because the laws that created it will play a role in governing it. There might not be a solar system with earth Jupiter and Saturn, but there will be celestial bodies orbiting a star. Controversial conjecture: there will be life, sentient life.
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this is kinda cool and if proven it would be another nail in the coffin of religion: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21499765
How exactly?

"For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken." -Jesus


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Old 02-20-2013, 05:28 PM #1247
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How exactly?

"For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken." -Jesus
Lightning doesn't come from the east or flash to the west. The moon has no light of its own, and the stars won't fall from the sky.

You could interpret that quote about a hundred ways. You done got trolled by the Bible.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:17 PM #1248
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Lightning doesn't come from the east or flash to the west. The moon has no light of its own, and the stars won't fall from the sky.

You could interpret that quote about a hundred ways. You done got trolled by the Bible.
Really? I didn't know this. Tell me more.

You can't read it as if you are reading an ancient text, from a person observing a vision, who had a hard time comprehending it 2000 years ago? Damn it, I thought we were all Indiana Jones.

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The question I have, is what did they mistake for stars in said vision?
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:58 PM #1250
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Really? I didn't know this. Tell me more.

You can't read it as if you are reading an ancient text, from a person observing a vision, who had a hard time comprehending it 2000 years ago? Damn it, I thought we were all Indiana Jones.
Didn't you quote Jesus? Are you saying He struggled to comprehend the visions he had? Or did I misunderstand your angle?
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:48 PM #1251
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I was talking of John.

This is just speculation, but supposing that Jesus was God, I would think he would have to talk in a way, so that the people of the current age could relate and understand him. But I should just let what it says speak for itself. It could be all horse**** to anyone else and I am just rationalizing it all away. The main question was how does this theory proven put a "nail in the coffin" of religion?

I read of a similar theory about 10 years ago in a popular science magazine and thought of these same texts. My mind likes to imagine things that could probably make great movies or ideas. I am sure we all do the same thing when we hear of new discoveries and possibilities like warp drives, super capacitors, and computer chips that run on photons.

I imagine in this case, the world ending in the most catastrophic and awesome manner. The sun is predicted to destroy the earth before the predicted time the alternate universe destroys our universe according to this theory. Therefore I guess it is a nail in the coffin.

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Old 02-20-2013, 09:26 PM #1252
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I dunno, maybe everybody who has a creation story that's ****ing wrong...
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:28 PM #1253
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I was talking of John.

This is just speculation, but supposing that Jesus was God, I would think he would have to talk in a way, so that the people of the current age could relate and understand him. But I should just let what it says speak for itself. It could be all horse**** to anyone else and I am just rationalizing it all away. The main question was how does this theory proven put a "nail in the coffin" of religion?

I read of a similar theory about 10 years ago in a popular science magazine and thought of these same texts. My mind likes to imagine things that could probably make great movies or ideas. I am sure we all do the same thing when we hear of new discoveries and possibilities like warp drives, super capacitors, and computer chips that run on photons.

I imagine in this case, the world ending in the most catastrophic and awesome manner. The sun is predicted to destroy the earth before the predicted time the alternate universe destroys our universe according to this theory. Therefore I guess it is a nail in the coffin.
Our sun won't be the cause of extinction for humanity. Either we will kill ourselves first, or we will be a space faring species by then.
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This is just speculation, but supposing that Jesus was God, I would think he would have to talk in a way, so that the people of the current age could relate and understand him. But I should just let what it says speak for itself. It could be all horse**** to anyone else and I am just rationalizing it all away. The main question was how does this theory proven put a "nail in the coffin" of religion?
To be fair I don't think it does. All it might do is put a nail in the coffin of literal interpretations of the Bible, but frankly that had already been done years ago.
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Our sun won't be the cause of extinction for humanity. Either we will kill ourselves first, or we will be a space faring species by then.
I'm going to take a guess and say that humankind will be extinct within 100-150 years. If we aren't extinct by then, we'd probably at least be struggling to survive.
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I'm going to take a guess and say that humankind will be extinct within 100-150 years. If we aren't extinct by then, we'd probably at least be struggling to survive.
I'm not sure about that. Struggling maybe but extinct is highly unlikely. It's not that easy to get rid of billions of the most adaptable species there is and which has populated almost every corner of the Earth.
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As a Catholic, I don't see how. As [a man of rational thought and sciences, [i don't see how.
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I dunno, maybe everybody who has a creation story that's ****ing wrong...
You need to think about that some more.

Are you agnostic or atheist?
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