Originally Posted by LeftHook
it's funny, this thread just reached its' 5th birthday. You'd think that the tech would have changed enough in the course of 5 years that the data wouldn't really be that relevant anymore, but it is.
I guess there really is just only *so much* you can do with a smooth bore and round imperfect projectile.
I have a hunch that with today's smaller paint sizes the imperfections in paint have a smaller effect and overall the grouping is getting smaller though.
Smooth Bore / Round Projectile? This past Fall I was helping my son prepare for his first dear hunt with a shot gun and slug. We tried both his single shot and my longer barrel semi auto. Both had smooth bore 12ga. Accuracy decreased greatly from 25 yards to 40 and 50 yards. What we found was at 50 yards it was impossible to predict from shot to shot where it would hit. To the point that it would have been impossible to even consider a shot at 70/100 yards. We tried several brands of slugs.
He ended up hunting with his uncles Rifled Barrel Slug gun with a Heavy Barrel. Got his first Buck at 100 yards. I recently purchased a Rifled Barrel Slug Gun for him in a 20 ga. We recently started sighting it in at 40 yards. It is a huge improvement on shot consitancy.
I reserached and talk to other Slug hunters ( I had never used Slugs) and the most feeback was that Smooth Bores with Slugs are very hard to fire accurately.
I think considering all the variables involved and the Smooth Bore/Round Projectile we might be hard pressed to get a high degree of accuracy out of our Paintball Markers. Especially at long ranges these tests were done at 70' I think. Really not that far of a shot.
Seems like most of the long range accuracy is going to depend on your personal feel for your marker. I have a friend that loved to take his stock Phantom and with a single shot could hit a pop can thrown into the air. Impact was maybe 15-20' away. Another friend at his field had a golf ball on a string at the practice range set up at about 50'. He could hit it time after time (rapid firing) with his Auto Cocker (it was a $1800 custom gun). But that was at 50'.
Both of these guys are exceptional marksmen in playing conditions. These guys score lots of hits at long range in game conditions. They have great feel for there markers. I think the average person could not match them using their markers.
Marksmanship takes good equipment but more important than the Marker, I think it is the Player behind the Marker. That determines accuracy at long ranges.
I would like to see tests done at 125/150'. Then take a fixed test Marker and compare it with a live Marker with a expert shooter behind the Marker using his setup of choice at 150'. Might be interesting to see what the Marksman could do.
For most players I think you can only expect so much out of your equipment. It is your personal skill that is going to really make the difference in game conditions. Many Barrels will give you realitively speaking the same effective accuracy. Not to say that you could not get a badly made barrel from time to time. Just because it says it is a certain bore does not mean it is. Maybe we should all get Calipers for our tool kits???????? And buy at Pro Shops.