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Old 01-20-2013, 10:40 AM #22
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What "emergency purpose" can you imagine which would necessitate a legal draft of U.S. Citizens?
Yet as long as there is a draft the question still stands. Should women be included. Remember if an 18 year old male does not sign up for it he is committing a crime and can not get things like federal student loans. With true equality comes responsibility.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:29 PM #23
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Yet as long as there is a draft the question still stands. Should women be included. Remember if an 18 year old male does not sign up for it he is committing a crime and can not get things like federal student loans. With true equality comes responsibility.
100% Agree. Well said.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:30 PM #24
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100% Agree. Well said.
+ 1 We're for equality not positive perks
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:14 PM #25
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I haven't jumped into this debate before, because I wasn't sure what I thought. Now, I will.

I am not against allowing women to serve with men (as long as they are capable, same standards, etc), but I am against coercing women into roles meant for men. If women choose to fulfill a masculine role, so be it. But I no more want to see women forced into service, then I do men forced into childbearing or stay-at-home parenting. I believe men are different then women, and homogenization of gender for sake of equality is silly.

But I am open to being proven wrong. I do not hold this opinion strongly.
Beyond that. There is a certain sense of honor in retaining some semblance of chivalry. Especially when it comes to war. I won't debate where I stand on the genders. That much is obvious. But I will say that the outcomes of the attempt at the equalization of the genders has been nefarious at best.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:15 PM #26
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The United States is waging in numerous wars at this very moment.
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:04 PM #27
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:37 PM #28
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What "emergency purpose" can you imagine which would necessitate a legal draft of U.S. Citizens?
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:47 PM #29
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Old 01-20-2013, 11:51 PM #30
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There is no point in having a draft at all any more. We will never be involved in such a large conflict that the draft is needed. If we end up in another world war, we still wouldn't need a draft since nuclear bombs would destroy most of mankind anyways.

Also, assuming the above is ignored, woman should not be a part of a draft if one occurred. History and experience shows that women would be far too emotionally unsuited for the horrors of war. They simply wouldn't be able to handle it. Many men can't handle it either.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:22 AM #32
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What "emergency purpose" can you imagine which would necessitate a legal draft of U.S. Citizens?
If blake doesn't have *** burgers, maybe alien invasion? Or bigfoot attack?
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If we really need a draft in this day and age **** is gonna be bad, really bad. And regardless if you got drafted or not you would get pulled into a conflict on that scale.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:46 PM #35
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Isnt this timely
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...bat-roles?lite
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Not so timely:

Women in Ground Close Combat Roles

Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, and Sweden (plus Australia, if I remember correctly) allow women in combat roles that "[engage] an enemy on the ground with individual or crew served weapons, while being exposed to hostile fire and to a high probability of direct physical contact with the hostile forces personnel."
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Women in Ground Close Combat Roles

Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Israel, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, and Sweden (plus Australia, if I remember correctly) allow women in combat roles that "[engage] an enemy on the ground with individual or crew served weapons, while being exposed to hostile fire and to a high probability of direct physical contact with the hostile forces personnel."


Out of that enture list of countries, the only one actually in a conflict right now is Israel. Within the Israeli military, 33% roughly are women. That's a pretty decent number imo.

I still do not believe a draft should comprise of women though. I believe only women who deem themselves fit to perform military combat actions should be in the military, for emotions sake.
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Look into which of those countries are fighting in Afghanistan and revise.
which of those countries are carrying out large scale military actions in Afghanistan?
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**the only one actually in large scale conflict right now is Israel.
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I wouldn't want a woman next to me if I were in combat. Just saying.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:33 PM #42
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Not a good idea. I can see the lawsuits now for harassment and assault, playing the gender card. Some girl is going to walk by a tree where a guy is peeing and claim he "exposed" himself to her.

Keep them in support roles, they make great mechanics, pilots, drivers, etc. Don't rely on them to fill the role of a grunt.

Oh and rape.
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