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Old 12-25-2012, 10:25 PM #253
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Ok great have to look at the efficiency valve but what would I be looking for?
Look for any nicked orings, or anything that would be preventing it from moving forwards like a chunk of oring or grime buildup.
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Old 12-26-2012, 02:20 PM #254
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i might be crazy or a complete noob but what is the "top hat"?
I had no idea when I heard the term awhile back......but it is the top portion of the reg.....that screws into the marker
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:36 PM #255
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can u give me the correct settings to run psp 12.5 ? and my top hat is stuck in to top half of my gun whats the best way to get it out?
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Old 12-30-2012, 03:07 PM #256
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What are the best settings as far as dwell, bolt return, feather touch, eye dely..etc for a vapor with a pooty bolt? I'm having issues with breaking paint and I have tuned and retuned the marker and still having complications. Thanks guys
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:09 PM #257
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What are the best settings as far as dwell, bolt return, feather touch, eye dely..etc for a vapor with a pooty bolt? I'm having issues with breaking paint and I have tuned and retuned the marker and still having complications. Thanks guys
what problems are you having ?
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Old 12-30-2012, 05:19 PM #258
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Dwell 15 (always works)
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Did you also do the regulator fix? Turning out the top section inside by 1/4 turn from fully tightened? That was my problem with breaking paint
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Old 12-30-2012, 06:23 PM #259
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what problems are you having ?
Just seems like my vapor is hitting really hard nd causing alot of barrel break...more then any gun I've ever shot. My current settings are

Dwell 10
Bolt return 40
Eye delay 7
Feather touch: like 2-3 turns in
Regulator what feels like all the way out To the bottom of the reg sleeve
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:07 PM #260
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Just seems like my vapor is hitting really hard nd causing alot of barrel break...more then any gun I've ever shot. My current settings are

Dwell 10
Bolt return 40
Eye delay 7
Feather touch: like 2-3 turns in
Regulator what feels like all the way out To the bottom of the reg sleeve
when i received mine back from machine "ken" it was returned with these settings:
Dwell 10
Return 20
Breach delay 15
Return screw all the way in and then back out 1/2 turn.
not sure where my reg screw is set, just use it to get up to 280 or so.
they work fine for me.

hope this helps...it was also suggested i cut 1 coil off of my eye springs.
from a post by pooty:
"Make sure your inner breach oring closest to the bolt is a size 18...very important. Size 17 that comes stock will act up for sure"

I put a green HNBR in as it is a bit looser than a buna.
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:06 PM #261
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Hi just got a vapor, I am trying to tune my marker but a lot goes over my head. What would you suggest about-

Dwell
Debounce
Eye delay
Eye sens
Bolt delay
Clearing shot
Fsdo time
Fsdo dwell


Also, my asa seems to be loose. How do I tighten it.

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Old 01-01-2013, 05:35 PM #262
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isaiah your vapor has already been setup using the tuning guide on the first page of this thread. next time youre at plex brimmer or crover can show you how to change settings but it should be good to go.

we can tighten your asa for you also, its just a couple of screws on the bottom but you have to remove some small asa pieces to get to one of them, if youre not sure i wouldnt mess with it
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:40 PM #263
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isaiah your vapor has already been setup using the tuning guide on the first page of this thread. next time youre at plex brimmer or crover can show you how to change settings but it should be good to go.

we can tighten your asa for you also, its just a couple of screws on the bottom but you have to remove some small asa pieces to get to one of them, if youre not sure i wouldnt mess with it
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:06 PM #264
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:13 PM #265
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anyway, let's get some questions answered.


If your marker feels a little rough, clean the drivetrain 'till it's spotless and then use a fresh coat of DOW33. Up your dwell into the 12-14ms range and then adjust your pressure accordingly. I also recommend using an under-bored 1-piece barrel in the winter, not only for the best efficiency possible, but so you can run a slightly lower pressure and longer dwell without compromising performance.

I believe that both Ken and I are loc-tighting the tophat adjustments in place. YOU SHOULD NEVER NEED TO ADJUST OR DISASSEMBLE THE TOPHAT!!!! Watch from 6:24 onwards for how I do maintenance after loc-tighting the tophat in place:




I'll have a few more videos coming out sooner than later. I'm waiting for "v3" parts so I can show all of the different revisions instead of making twice as many videos.

As for tightening the ASA, just push/pull the core out and you'll see the two screws from the bottom....video here:

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Old 01-14-2013, 01:58 AM #266
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ok so i got a vapor when i air it up no air is getting to the bolt. it airs up then it wont shoot. i took the bolt out to see if anything was getting to the bolt but nothing is getting there any help?
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:08 PM #267
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i think it is the reg, turn it so it increases the fps.
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my asa keeps getting loose, i even tried it with loctite and it still comes loose. any help/ideas?
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:50 AM #269
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ok so i got a vapor when i air it up no air is getting to the bolt. it airs up then it wont shoot. i took the bolt out to see if anything was getting to the bolt but nothing is getting there any help?
If no air is getting to the bolt, that means you're HPR is turned down all the way, or there's no spring in the HPR, or someone put an extra oring on the tophat which is causing a blockage. Remember, if you're looking at the bottom of the ASA, turn it CLOCKWISE to increase the pressure.

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my asa keeps getting loose, i even tried it with loctite and it still comes loose. any help/ideas?
Take the ASA off, and stick a q-tip into the mounting holes to clean them out. clean off the screws with rubbing alcohol and wait for them to dry. Then, put a drop of thread-lock on a toothpick and put it on the frame threads that line up with the ASA screws. Tighten them, but don't torque them down (if you strip them out, you'll be sorry to say the least). The less threadlock you use, the faster it'll cure, so if it's a soupy mess, it'll practically never dry. More locktight does not equal a better connection.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:44 PM #270
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Hi everyone. Having some problems and really love this gun. Best spool i have shot. Here goes. Hi i need some help with my vapor. It seems to be having breech breaks but not just a typical chop. I can clearly hear a smack sound like a slap sound. I have the pooty bolt in it and have changed some orings and did the FT screw trick that you have in your tuning guide, changed the detents and even put a bigger breach oring in the front closer to barrel so it doesnt restrict the ball going through. Any thoughts. This even happens when i just one ball the gun slowly.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:14 PM #271
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... even put a bigger breach oring in the front closer to barrel so it doesnt restrict the ball going through. Any thoughts. This even happens when i just one ball the gun slowly.

That might be your problem right there; that oring is MEANT to fit tightly to the bolt so it seals the breech. without it, you'll be running way too high of a pressure and that will cause barrel-bursts.

Also, what kind of paint are you shooting? There was a bad batch of orange evil a while ago, but it's still floating around.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:28 PM #272
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Not evil but its in cold weather but i had this issue before i swapped out the oring to a size 18. I will switch back the size to a 17. I will try checkin the HPR and tightening the top hat screw and turning it out 1/4 a turn to see if that is the issue. And i will reset the reg to see if it was the hpr? Any other thoughts. Thank you for your time.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:32 PM #273
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Hey guys, my vapor seems to have the tiniest leak from the feedneck/barrel area, any ideas on what it could be?
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