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Old 01-19-2013, 11:13 AM #169
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Now this brings me to the PSP not allowing Valken Paint = My field is less likely to be sending teams to PSP because of the difficulty of getting Paint.
Just as hard as last year and every year before that? This is a stupid arguement. Valken hasn't ever been with the PSP so saying that them not being there will make things harder is just silly.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:23 AM #170
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I would throw them a counter offer of dropping the NPPL, and maybe an extra 1-2k in "loyalty fees" on top of the standard vendor fees.

Interesting to see the PSP trying to kill off the NPPL. It needs to happen, and now they are stepping up their efforts. It's so obvious the NPPL is strapped for cash with the advent of the D3-D4 pro team.......
You are such a scrub. You have never done anything noteworthy in paintball. All you do is bash AZPPL , contact, and talk about how hard law school is to let everyone know you are a law student. The new teams in NPPL are easily D2-D1. But keep slinging mud like a choade in a thread where the topic is Valken and PSP.

FYI I don't support NPPL, Contact, or Valken. I just think you are a dbag.
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:31 AM #171
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:35 AM #172
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Old 01-19-2013, 11:48 AM #173
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You are such a scrub. You have never done anything noteworthy in paintball. All you do is bash AZPPL , contact, and talk about how hard law school is to let everyone know you are a law student. The new teams in NPPL are easily D2-D1. But keep slinging mud like a choade in a thread where the topic is Valken and PSP.

FYI I don't support NPPL, Contact, or Valken. I just think you are a dbag.
Well that escalated quickly.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:21 PM #174
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Just as hard as last year and every year before that? This is a stupid arguement. Valken hasn't ever been with the PSP so saying that them not being there will make things harder is just silly.
Valken as a brand name no, but "Gino" as an owner of major brands in the past and a sponsor to many, many teams and PSP events in the past "YES".

Please understand I'm just voicing an opinion on things that could only help the game, it's players and leagues.

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Old 01-19-2013, 12:29 PM #175
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Most people do not realize what goes on behind closed doors, and if they knew I really do not think people would support PSP. PSP and the owners have been shady for years, and honestly, the whole business is shady.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:39 PM #176
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That's the opposite of extortion.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:48 PM #177
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The NPPL is pretty much worthless anyway.... :kinda :

Paintball is shady...and it always will be. Glad I got out of the sport when I did.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:48 PM #178
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The OP isnt so smart.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:56 PM #179
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Thats not extortion... but okay? Cool story.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:56 PM #180
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Most people do not realize what goes on behind closed doors, and if they knew I really do not think people would support PSP. PSP and the owners have been shady for years, and honestly, the whole business is shady.
Welcome to capitalism. It may seem shady, but that's how business works. And while I cannot speak to the specifics of this case, in a lot of instances it works well.

If you don't agree with the actions the PSP is taking, play your role in the market and don't patronize them. Unless people do that they'll keep doing whatever it is they've been doing.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:02 PM #181
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If PSP allows Valken to sell paint, two of their main backers and existing paint dealers now lose about a third of their paint sales. I'd be willing to bet a third of the paint sales for an event is more than $10k.

not extortion, not shady, capitalism
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:04 PM #182
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If PSP allows Valken to sell paint, two of their main backers and existing paint dealers now lose about a third of their paint sales. I'd be willing to bet a third of the paint sales for an event is more than $10k.

not extortion, not shady, capitalism
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Right, with what details we've been given it seems like a pretty good deal to me.
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:41 PM #183
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You are such a scrub. You have never done anything noteworthy in paintball. All you do is bash AZPPL , contact, and talk about how hard law school is to let everyone know you are a law student. The new teams in NPPL are easily D2-D1. But keep slinging mud like a choade in a thread where the topic is Valken and PSP.

FYI I don't support NPPL, Contact, or Valken. I just think you are a dbag.


Scrub? Lol. He aint no scrub. He's done way more for the sport than you ever will.he's accomplished kickstarting the u of a team, arranged courtship and relations between Phx and Tucson teams that fight on the field for years, and ya, bash the azppl. I even bashed the azppl.the whole state bashed azppl.leagued turned into a team owned interest conflicting crockfest.and yah, flying all over the country to sell pickles, go to law school and fly all over to play paintball would make law school hard. At least he's doing everything he loves and succeeding at it, something you will never do.don't bash people you envy.and to have any merit, u should actually be a player, unlike yourself, before you start bashing good people and trolling on major forum you just joined a couple months ago cuz u need attention like a baby.next time you slander someone, especially for voicing an opinion on topic, remember that ur below a scrub yourself, u just like the crowd.dbag lol. Next time, don't accuse some one of not being on topic when they are, and don't sign in to ur lil troll account to be off topic yourself and start calling people choade and duchbag on a national forum, you frickin choadish wet bloody duchbag
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:00 PM #184
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:25 PM #185
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Just as hard as last year and every year before that? This is a stupid arguement. Valken hasn't ever been with the PSP so saying that them not being there will make things harder is just silly.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:00 PM #186
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Confirmed:Valken Paint Will Not Be Distributed At PSP Events

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We previously reported that Valken paint would be sold at PSP events this year. We reached out to Lane Wright, PSP Chief Operations Officer, who confirmed that the PSP will not be opening its doors to the Valken paint truck in the 2013 paintball season. Wright has told us that he reached out to Valken with a paint sponsorship option which would allow Valken to sell their paint at every PSP event this season, and Valken declined that offer.

There are several rumors circulating as to why the deal did not go through, but we do not have any confirmed reasoning as of yet. The only thing that is confirmed is the fact that Valken recently signed a deal with the NPPL to be the exclusive paint vendor in attendance at their events.

What does this little ordeal mean for Valken exactly? Considering the fact that this is the second year in a row that their paint will not be in attendance at a PSP event, it does not look too good for their company, nor the teams that Valken sponsors.

At this point, this situation is full of speculation and hearsay. It may end up staying that way…

We are currently working on uncovering all of the facts before we provide further information as to why Valken declined PSP’s offer. With that said, what are your thoughts on the matter? Are you disappointed to see that the Valken truck will miss yet another dominant PSP season? Let us know!
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