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Old 01-18-2013, 03:32 PM #64
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:34 PM #65
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what it means is they were told it was going to cost one price and then after valken landed the nppl deal they got a call stating their price had changed.
That's like complaining that Dye stopped giving you a sponsored team price because you signed with Eclipse.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:40 PM #66
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lol. It's a lose lose for the PSP now(if it's true). Valken is upset because they have to pay more to be included, and all current PSP paint sponsors(like KEE and GI) have to be upset that PSP has a price instead of loyalty.

Suck it greedy *****es!
I highly doubt any decisions were made without communicating to Kee and GI about it first.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:42 PM #67
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:42 PM #68
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lol. It's a lose lose for the PSP now(if it's true). Valken is upset because they have to pay more to be included, and all current PSP paint sponsors(like KEE and GI) have to be upset that PSP has a price instead of loyalty.

Suck it greedy *****es!
Don't KEE and GI have a stake in the PSP?
I bet they were in the loop
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:49 PM #69
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wasn't there a press release from PSP shortly ago that said any paint company can sell paint at a PSP event?
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:50 PM #70
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Extortion? Sounds like PSP was offering a business proposition with unfavorable terms more than anything.
yea.. sensationalist, bull**** title.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:53 PM #71
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:53 PM #72
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extortion would have been

PSP "Give us 10,000 and leave NPPL or we break your knee caps"

plus, isnt recording a phone conversation with out the other party knowing pretty much wire tapping?
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:57 PM #74
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extortion would have been

PSP "Give us 10,000 and leave NPPL or we break your knee caps"

plus, isnt recording a phone conversation with out the other party knowing pretty much wire tapping?
Nope, as long as one party knows the line is being recorded then it's legal.
It's when neither party on the phone knows the call is being recorded that it becomes illegal.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:03 PM #75
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I spoke with Gino as well and all this **** is true. While it is backdoor bull**** they can "offer" this to Valken. This is exactly what the sport doesn't need.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:05 PM #76
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I'm not sure where you've heard this?...

My field was considering switching but I've heard nothing about it being cheaper...
Paint is a little cheaper but Valkens shipping is considerably more
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Aren't the other paint sponsors he talks about (Kee, Gi) part owners of the PSP?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:07 PM #78
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extortion would have been

PSP "Give us 10,000 and leave NPPL or we break your knee caps"

plus, isnt recording a phone conversation with out the other party knowing pretty much wire tapping?
in NJ, only one party needs to consent to recording, and in this case it was Gino.
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Nope, as long as one party knows the line is being recorded then it's legal.
It's when neither party on the phone knows the call is being recorded that it becomes illegal.
it changes from state to state. VA is another state where that applies. Some other states dictate that both parties must be aware.

to be exact... these states say you have to make the other party aware(and get their consent).

California
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it changes from state to state. VA is another state where that applies. Some other states dictate that both parties must be aware.

to be exact... these states say you have to make the other party aware(and get their consent).

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Old 01-18-2013, 04:14 PM #82
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yes its shady **** what psp is doing, but really is nothing we can do about it. i would like to shoot the redemption pro or redemption paint at psp, people say that it bites, but i personally like the paint. it may bring less revenue to GI and KEE, but didnt raehl and lane, and tom cole say all they want to do is grow the sport, for the teams who dislike GI n KEE paint, valken being allowed in could possibly draw more teams, which in turns also generates plenty of revenue for psp
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So Gino hasn't posted here? And PSP hasn't posted here?

Yawn. No paintball news here.
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Has anybody here that seems to be so willing to share negative opinions about Valken paint even shot its new top end pro-level Platinum paint it will be offering for the 2013 season yet? I think its a bit more prudent to have tried the paint Valken will be offering the pros before you throw out your opinion on it. I personally think redemption pro is some of the most reliable paint Ive ever shot and Id prefer that over GI any day of the week, even if GI was reasonably priced (or not as grossly overpriced as it is now).
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