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Old 01-17-2013, 01:58 AM #904
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:02 AM #905
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What a clearly damning accusation you have made, Obama is clearly as awful as Hitler because he has kids in his photos, thank you for your insightful writings sir.
Not for having kids in his photos, but for using them as pawns to make it seem as if his gun control policies and executive orders will somehow make them safer. The fact that you can't see the distinction is quite troubling.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:14 AM #906
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:23 AM #907
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:04 AM #909
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Forbes wrote an article claiming Psychiatric Drugs are the common denominator in murderous violence (which is true) and then conveniently deleted it from their website. Here's the google cache of it:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...rous-violence/

Here's a good quote that explains what's going on:

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Yet, federal and state governments continue to ignore the connection between psychiatric drugs and murderous violence, preferring instead to exploit these tragedies in an oppressive and unconstitutional power grab to snatch guns away from innocent, law-abiding people who are guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution the right to own and bear arms to deter government tyranny and to use firearms in self defense against any miscreant who would do them harm.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:37 AM #910
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Did anyone see how obama used children as political fodder in his speech? Didn't surprise me at all. That's usually what tyrants do, just look at the Hitler youth.




Obama surrounding himself with children during gun control proposal is blatantly manipulative but what you're doing isn't any different.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:12 AM #911
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I'm ok with the government saying I can't own "military style" weapons, as long as the government doesn't have "military style" weapons to use against me.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:38 AM #912
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I'm ok with the government saying I can't own "military style" weapons, as long as the government doesn't have "military style" weapons to use against me.
The fact is these weapons aren't military style to begin with, so all of this is based on a lie that the media keeps running with.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:44 AM #913
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what is a "military style" weapon? The beretta 92fs is a military weapon and so is the Remington 870
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:49 AM #914
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He is using the same tactics as hitler.

Promising a safer America. Using children to get people on his side. The whole sandy hook shooting is pretty shady. A lot of things don't add up.

Examples

1.) "father" genuinely smiling before getting into character for his speech about his dead daughter.

2.) dead daughter is in a picture with Obama and others 2 days after the shooting.

3.)Man that lived next to the school "crying" when he tells the story about 6 of the surviving children sitting in his driveway. And telling the story about the mother that came to his home to see if her son was there. And that afternoon he saw the child's name on "the list" that hadnt even been released.

4.) Medical examiner that has no idea wtf he is talking about. Saying that there were .223 rounds found in most the children's bodies. I'm sorry but a .223 round traveling approximately 3200 fps is going to rip right though a 6-7 year olds body. It would rip through a fat mans body. They even said it was Fmj. So idfk. Sounds more like pistols to me.

5.) Police seen extracting a rifle from the trunk of the car that night under the cover of darkness. It was not a shotgun. They were seen clearing the weapon by racking the charging handle 3 times. That is done with a very unique motion on ar15's. Anyone with experience with there's rifles knows this.

6.) two "parents" have been identified as crisis actors.


I think it's all a hoax to disarm to begin disarming the population.



There's more. I'm just sick of typing on my phone. I can post video links later if anyone's interested. I'm trapped at this hell known as JFK airport for a while.


I'm not saying the shooting didnt occur as the media and Obama have portrayed it, I'm just saying I doubt it did. As with all investigations, every detail Needs to be examined.


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Old 01-17-2013, 11:52 AM #915
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

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Old 01-17-2013, 11:54 AM #916
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most all guns are based off of some sort of military design.

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I'm ok with the government saying I can't own "military style" weapons, as long as the government doesn't have "military style" weapons to use against me.
I agree with this. that said that will never be the case.
http://www.examiner.com/article/poli...id=db_articles
too many things like this happen apparently every day.

interesting statistics showing more people are killed without guns than with them:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/***...1/03/id/469982
deaths in general:
http://www.romans322.com/daily-death...statistics.php
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:56 AM #917
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This is a military style firearm.


It's even banned in New York. Bayonet lug, barrel shroud, and a detachable 10 rnd magazine.


The problem with trying to define what a military style weapon is, is that you are even accepting their questions or statements as legitimate. The people who propose these gun laws do not understand guns to begin with. Nor do they have any interest in the actual facts and statistics about their use, dispersion, etc. The people who exemplify this well are drgonzo and license2kill. Banning guns to them is a method to damage their imagined version of the modern GOP via proxy.

Liberal progressives are who wish to erode any and all rights so long as it effects the "GOP" and it's not something they are interested in. Drgonzo wants an almost complete incorporation of government with his daily life. He sees no need to defend himself from anything, and would rather have every woman in his family raped to death than try coping with killing a rapist in defense.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

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You and others attempt to dismiss entire arguments based upon an observation of some guy from 1990. Yet you fail completely to address the actual argument's substance.

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Old 01-17-2013, 12:11 PM #918
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the proposed ban list I have seen includes anything originally designed for military or police use or similar designs. that would be every gun
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:12 PM #919
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He is using the same tactics as hitler.

Promising a safer America. Using children to get people on his side. The whole sandy hook shooting is pretty shady. A lot of things don't add up.

Examples

1.) "father" genuinely smiling before getting into character for his speech about his dead daughter.

2.) dead daughter is in a picture with Obama and others 2 days after the shooting.

3.)Man that lived next to the school "crying" when he tells the story about 6 of the surviving children sitting in his driveway. And telling the story about the mother that came to his home to see if her son was there. And that afternoon he saw the child's name on "the list" that hadnt even been released.

4.) Medical examiner that has no idea wtf he is talking about. Saying that there were .223 rounds found in most the children's bodies. I'm sorry but a .223 round traveling approximately 3200 fps is going to rip right though a 6-7 year olds body. It would rip through a fat mans body. They even said it was Fmj. So idfk. Sounds more like pistols to me.

5.) Police seen extracting a rifle from the trunk of the car that night under the cover of darkness. It was not a shotgun. They were seen clearing the weapon by racking the charging handle 3 times. That is done with a very unique motion on ar15's. Anyone with experience with there's rifles knows this.

6.) two "parents" have been identified as crisis actors.


I think it's all a hoax to disarm to begin disarming the population.



There's more. I'm just sick of typing on my phone. I can post video links later if anyone's interested. I'm trapped at this hell known as JFK airport for a while.


I'm not saying the shooting didnt occur as the media and Obama have portrayed it, I'm just saying I doubt it did. As with all investigations, every detail Needs to be examined.


EDIT: LET THE FLAME WAR BEGIN.
Most of the things you have stated as fact are entirely false.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:15 PM #920
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I said examples, not facts.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:17 PM #921
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You and others attempt to dismiss entire arguments based upon an observation of some guy from 1990. Yet you fail completely to address the actual argument's substance.
They are comparing Obama to Hitler. The argument doesn't have "substance" to address.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:21 PM #922
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it sure does, they both used children/emotional blackmail to further their own political agenda.
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Hitler also disarmed the citizens, just as obama aims to do.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:30 PM #924
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He even used children that would hit home for any parents.
Two whites, boy and girl, a black boy, and (what appeared to be, not saying it was) a Mexican girl. It's all a physcological mind ****.


And as for one of the videos I mentioned about sandy hook..

Fake father
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

I could only get the mobile site, as I'm on my iPhone. I assume you can just delete the m?
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