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Old 01-16-2013, 12:55 AM #22
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I spray carnabua (Sp?) or quick detailer spray on a barrel swab and wipe the inside of the barrel down when I have barrel breaks..but this is after the game, helps to clean the remaining paint off.

Going off of this, I spray QD on a microfiber to clean my equipment off if I got shot on the hopper or gun.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:25 PM #23
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Meh there's a reason people don't do this anymore.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:31 PM #24
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Just to clarify on my original post (which is old) I was applying some car wax to the outside of the barrel. This helped renew and protect some of the tarnishing that was occurring on the outside of my stiff stik stiffi barrel. It would restore the coloring of the barrel that would get faded from scratching over time and helped protect it some. I do not recommend putting the car wax inside the barrel as I feel this would have a negative impact on performance. I was shown this trick by another player a while back and it does do a good job of keeping the resin protected and looking nice.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:38 PM #25
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wonder if anyone does the Rainx trick inside the barrels still
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:01 PM #26
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wonder if anyone does the Rainx trick inside the barrels still
There was a fairly recent thread with some people saying they still use it. Never seemed to do squat for me.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:59 PM #27
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Meh there's a reason people don't do this anymore.
There's a reason, just that I'm not going to tell you what it is. Thanks for the informative post. Like I said, nobody will do it because you're all smarter.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:01 PM #28
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wonder if anyone does the Rainx trick inside the barrels still
RainX is a little different. RainX tends to attract dust over time, and ends up kinda gooey.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:04 PM #29
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I do not recommend putting the car wax inside the barrel as I feel this would have a negative impact on performance.
I could see this being a concern if your barrel had a ceramic coating, or some other factory finish intended to reduce friction or repel moisture. But other than your gut, what makes you think making the inside of the barrel more slippery would have a negative impact on performance?

Oh, and BTW, the average thickness of a layer of car wax is in the neighborhood of 20nm, or less than .0001% of the diameter of your barrel. I guess since it's annular, it will reduce the diameter by .0002%.

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Old 01-17-2013, 12:23 AM #30
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"Car wax" in itself is so broad of a term as the cast doubt on the entire assertion.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:27 AM #31
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"Car wax" in itself is so broad of a term as the cast doubt on the entire assertion.
I did name a specific wax, though I'm sure many other waxes would work similarly, or better based on advancements in technology.
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Turtle wax is a cleaner wax so
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:32 AM #33
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Turtle wax is a cleaner wax so
Citation? They do sell a cleaner wax, but the basic liquid Turtle Wax is not a cleaner wax. The cleaner version is boldly labeled "CLEANER".

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Old 01-17-2013, 12:53 AM #34
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Citation? They do sell a cleaner wax, but the basic liquid Turtle Wax is not a cleaner wax. The cleaner version is boldly labeled "CLEANER".
http://www.turtlewaxeurope.com/produ...original-500ml

When Turtle Wax was invented, there was no such thing as cleaner wax, but regular turtle wax is basically a cleaner wax.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=110483
http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/rsocbb...p?p=2731460093
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:02 AM #35
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http://www.turtlewaxeurope.com/produ...original-500ml

When Turtle Wax was invented, there was no such thing as cleaner wax, but regular turtle wax is basically a cleaner wax.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=110483
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A citation would lead to a document which verifies your inference. There is nothing on that page that expresses or implies that there are any abrasives in standard Turtle Wax. You may be referring to the statement that it "gently lifts away ingrained grime and light oxidation", which on its face seems to imply an abrasive nature, but alas, there are many methods to gently lift away grime.

The question of whether or not it's a 'cleaner wax' by strict definition is whether or not it contains polishing abrasives.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:06 AM #36
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Also, some other guy on some other forum saying it's a cleaner wax because he says so isn't proof of anything.
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:13 AM #37
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Annnnnyway long story short as far as I'm concerned, I did try waxing barrels in the early 90s or so, I did see a velocity effect but it went away very quickly, indicating the wax wore off rather quickly.

A lot of people heard about waxing barrels and tried it. In the end if it were really a thing everyone would know about it and still be using it. We're not because it's not.

I had some success with some things using dry film lubes, but not barrels. My personal conclusion is for parts exposed to environment, setting them up to work well completely bare/dry and clean is the key to long-term consistent function.
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The question of whether or not it's a 'cleaner wax' by strict definition is whether or not it contains polishing abrasives.
Actually that would determine whether it's a polish. Though many cleaner waxes contain abrasives, the main cleaning action of cleaner waxes is through solvents ... which is how it is mixed with a wax.
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Annnnnyway long story short as far as I'm concerned, I did try waxing barrels in the early 90s or so, I did see a velocity effect but it went away very quickly, indicating the wax wore off rather quickly.

A lot of people heard about waxing barrels and tried it. In the end if it were really a thing everyone would know about it and still be using it. We're not because it's not.

I had some success with some things using dry film lubes, but not barrels. My personal conclusion is for parts exposed to environment, setting them up to work well completely bare/dry and clean is the key to long-term consistent function.
This moment makes me proud. Rather than continue your "Na-ugh's", you actually posted something of value to the reader. Now, someone can read your actual experiences trying this and make a more informed decision. Congrats!
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Unfortunately minds need to be "unblown" first.
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Actually that would determine whether it's a polish. Though many cleaner waxes contain abrasives, the main cleaning action of cleaner waxes is through solvents ... which is how it is mixed with a wax.
Cleaner Wax: A combination of wax and polish that contains mild abrasives. The abrasives remove minor paint imperfections. The wax and other ingredients produce a durable, high-gloss finish.

http://www.crdesigns.com/glossary.aspx

Maybe not the highest authority, but Mother's product page says basically the same thing.

http://www.mothers.com/02_products/05701-05500.html
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Unfortunately minds need to be "unblown" first.
Haha! Yeah, I had fun writing that post. Unlike you, most people just write off the wax thing without trying it. I did it regularly and was very impressed with the results, as were the majority of people I knew who were doing the same. I just get frustrated when people say, "don't do that" with nothing to back it up. As if it were going to do harm to give it a try.
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