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01-15-2013, 02:09 PM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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Custom axe project
So i'm about to pick up an axe and my teammate is going to college for CNC machining. The plan is to definitely make some insane milled up axe but we're going to do this right. Does anyone have specifications of the axe? We can measure everything but didn't know if there was anything already posted on the subject. Also I've noticed that any custom milled axe (that I can find) leaves the back portion of the body alone, is there a reason for that or is it just because most people like the cosmetics of that back chunk?
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01-15-2013, 03:01 PM
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?CustomizationSpecialist?
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Altoona
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simon would be the guy to ask on that one
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01-15-2013, 03:50 PM
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Lainway Sports Rep
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New York
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I can almost guarantee that Empire or any employee that plans to keep their job will not give you the dimensions and specifications, let alone CAD/ ProE/ SolidWorks files to work with.
If your friend is going for machining, he must know how to measure, with great consistency and accuracy. No doubt he has access to these measuring tools as well.
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01-15-2013, 04:05 PM
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GET WEIRD
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Location: Madison
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I would also ask simon... he's a great dude 
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01-15-2013, 04:20 PM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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I'm still wondering about that back chunk. I would hate to mill some of it and there be a reason it hasn't been done before
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01-15-2013, 04:35 PM
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Not Lazy........ Just Fat
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Monmouth County NJ
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First take the gun completely apart and learn where air travels and write down ideas about where you think you can take off any metal.
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01-15-2013, 04:36 PM
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Lainway Sports Rep
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New York
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Weight distribution. You would want the gun to be a little heavier in the back to seem more maneuverable, while more energy created by the shot is absorbed in the back. The Axe is basically a mini, with more weight to make it seem like it shoots like a high-end marker.
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01-15-2013, 05:07 PM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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So the weight is left there for performance purposes. That makes sense. I'll be posting pictures as I make it!
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01-15-2013, 08:08 PM
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projectile bacon?!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
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Those are pretty simple markers, one main tube. Also the frame seems to fits against the marker flat meaning it won't be hard to fixture to a 4th axis. The hardest part will be machining any cool contours, or rather getting the cam software to do what you want and not ruin the work piece. When I was in machining class for my capstone project I machined an 06 Borg and it came out pretty awesome, but I spent about 2 months fighting the Cam software to get it just right with the correct step overs and the tool paths I wanted to take. Good luck.
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01-15-2013, 08:11 PM
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projectile bacon?!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
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I would also see how hard it is to get another body just in case
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01-15-2013, 08:45 PM
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Not Lazy........ Just Fat
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Monmouth County NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RabidHobo
I would also see how hard it is to get another body just in case
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This. And considering minis are like 100$ now why not buy one to prototype off of?
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01-15-2013, 09:00 PM
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projectile bacon?!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancid1845
This. And considering minis are like 100$ now why not buy one to prototype off of?
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There is not much left to work with on a mini and they have a smaller tube. It wouldn't be a bad project but it wouldn't really help with the Axe programming.
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01-15-2013, 09:13 PM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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My thoughts are doing the same milling like the Simon axe. But I want to replace the S with the punishers skull used on the NYX matrix
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01-15-2013, 09:28 PM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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Just to add a little background, I'm getting the axe at a fairly good deal. Also because of the situation I won't have to pay any machine time and it could turn into something done more often in the future. The mini doesn't have enough meat to attempt doing what i want on it and if it's successfull I will be using this as a personal marker.
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01-16-2013, 01:37 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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If hes's going to school for machining it would benefit him knowing how to reverse engineer a piece. So have him design the whole upper tube and then make whatever changes you want then apply it to a new from scratch piece. That way you're not working within the confines of a pre-existing piece. Possibilities then become endless!
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01-16-2013, 08:31 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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^ This!!!
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01-16-2013, 08:57 AM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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That's an interesting idea. That would also let me have free reign over the materials used. I've been thinking of trying something with tungsten
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01-16-2013, 11:17 AM
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Waffles
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Louisiana
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Unless you are planning to use it as a hammer, I see no reason to make it out of tungsten. Markers are aluminum for a reason.
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01-16-2013, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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Aluminum is used because its durable and lightweight. It's not necessarily the best performing metal. If I'm chopping down the size I don't mind using a heavier metal that performs better such as tungsten or stainless.
But I'm basing the idea of tungsten solely off an older Timmy I've seen with all tungsten internals that shot awesome.
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01-16-2013, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toledo, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjboss
Aluminum is used because its durable and lightweight. It's not necessarily the best performing metal. If I'm chopping down the size I don't mind using a heavier metal that performs better such as tungsten or stainless.
But I'm basing the idea of tungsten solely off an older Timmy I've seen with all tungsten internals that shot awesome.
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LOL.. body out of stainless...
That would serve no purpose beside the "wow" factor and **** this is heavy
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01-16-2013, 03:14 PM
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Absolute Chaos
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenville, SC
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If there's barely anything there then it wouldn't be that heavy
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