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Old 01-13-2013, 01:19 PM #1
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Difference between "Major" and "Minor" events

So I planned on playing Chicago this year and now im really confused because Chicago is no longer a "Major" event. They are still having a "Minor" event there.

What does this mean? No pro teams? If its just divisional teams, do they expect these Divisional teams to play all 4 major and minor events? REALLY?


Basically I need to know if D4-D1 are at these "Minor" events and who all would really be going to a minor event?

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Old 01-13-2013, 01:22 PM #2
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I think the minor events are just for divisional teams to get points towards their series total and to be able to play more events closer to them rather than travel every time, that's my guess
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:07 PM #3
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"In addition to the Four Major Paintball World Series Events the NPPL will be hosting 4 Minor events where Divisional teams will compete and earn NPPL World Series Points at a regional level. These points will count towards the over all NPPL World Paintball Series Title.

The NPPL will be hosting live music at each major event this year along with incredible player parties and other extreme activities. "

Major events will have all the big things NPPL events usually have. My guess Minor events will be ran more like the affiliate tournaments for PSP. Simply just the tournament. No vendor tents, music, player parties, etc. But series points can still be had at these events and it will be closer and cheaper for players than traveling to the major event.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:59 PM #4
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basically it's playing a local event, but u can earn series points towards the NPPL series title.
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:11 PM #5
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What does this mean?
It means the NPPL is running out of money.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:04 AM #6
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It means the NPPL is running out of money.
I guess the PSP is as well since they do the same thing.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:28 AM #7
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I guess the PSP is as well since they do the same thing.
PSP has feeder leagues that highlight divisional play, that's not the same as making your pro events "major" and minor" to save money in some cities.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:05 PM #8
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PSP has feeder leagues that highlight divisional play, that's not the same as making your pro events "major" and minor" to save money in some cities.
"In addition to the Four Major Paintball World Series Events the NPPL will be hosting 4 Minor events where Divisional teams will compete and earn NPPL World Series Points at a regional level. These points will count towards the over all NPPL World Paintball Series Title."
So tell me how this isn't anything like what the PSP does. It might not be at the same scale as the PSP's feeder events but it is the same thing in principle. How's about you let it play out and see how things actually unfold before bashing something without any actual knowledge.
Also how is it saving money when at the end of the day the NPPL is having more events. It's not like they are only having HB and Vegas, they just changed the venue on the other two. If anything I'd imagine the location change would cost them more money at the time being.

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Old 01-14-2013, 02:00 PM #9
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I'm guessing that the NPPL will take your top 4scores. Minnor event points won't count as much as major events. If you can't play Vegas and HB you can still keep in contention in the overall series by going to Chicago and DC.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:55 PM #10
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It means the NPPL is running out of money.
You're definitely one of the biggest haters on here but that's not what I want to talk to you about. This will only cost them more, why would it suggest they're running out of money?
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:11 PM #11
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Your assumption that creating a lower tier will cost them more flies in the face of business logic.

Cutting events into two tiers means the lower tier events will have less going on, IE: less to set up, less logistical concerns, less people/companies to contact and pay for services, less vendor space to have to contend with and manage, les entertainment for the fans to book and pay for, etc etc etc.

The fact this distinction is being made at all, is a sure sign of the NPPL wanting to cut corners wherever possible. Go ahead and slap a coat of fresh paint on it and spin this as a positive development all you want, the fact is that the NPPL is struggling and it's no secret.

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Old 01-14-2013, 03:35 PM #12
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So will divisional teams not play at major events and only at minor events?
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:11 PM #13
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So will divisional teams not play at major events and only at minor events?
No. Think of the minors as a separate series which still provides points toward overall NPPL rankings.

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Old 01-14-2013, 04:19 PM #14
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The fact this distinction is being made at all, is a sure sign of the NPPL wanting to cut corners wherever possible. Go ahead and slap a coat of fresh paint on it and spin this as a positive development all you want, the fact is that the NPPL is struggling and it's no secret.
So instead of being productive and trying to help possibly one of the best leagues ever to hit paintball (not saying the PSP isn't just as good, if not better) you would rather choose to only bring out the negativity?

Sounds much like a hater to me.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:23 PM #15
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Your assumption that creating a lower tier will cost them more flies in the face of business logic.

Cutting events into two tiers means the lower tier events will have less going on, IE: less to set up, less logistical concerns, less people/companies to contact and pay for services, less vendor space to have to contend with and manage, les entertainment for the fans to book and pay for, etc etc etc.

The fact this distinction is being made at all, is a sure sign of the NPPL wanting to cut corners wherever possible. Go ahead and slap a coat of fresh paint on it and spin this as a positive development all you want, the fact is that the NPPL is struggling and it's no secret.
how does this fly in the face of business logic? more events = higher costs.

please enlighten us on how making 4 additional events available to the divisional teams is the NPPL's way of cutting corners.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:15 PM #16
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"In addition to the Four Major Paintball World Series Events the NPPL will be hosting 4 Minor events where Divisional teams will compete and earn NPPL World Series Points at a regional level. These points will count towards the over all NPPL World Paintball Series Title."
So tell me how this isn't anything like what the PSP does. It might not be at the same scale as the PSP's feeder events but it is the same thing in principle. How's about you let it play out and see how things actually unfold before bashing something without any actual knowledge.
Also how is it saving money when at the end of the day the NPPL is having more events. It's not like they are only having HB and Vegas, they just changed the venue on the other two. If anything I'd imagine the location change would cost them more money at the time being.
I think he missed my previous post. It's also becoming more and more like he fails to realized that they have added Tampa and Denver as part of their "major" series. So instead of becoming educated about the new changes, he just started bashing the league. I have a strong feeling this guy hasn't even played a NPPL even in at least a couple of years if ever due to the quickness in his desire to flame the league without even knowing what he is talking about.
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So instead of being productive and trying to help possibly one of the best leagues ever to hit paintball (not saying the PSP isn't just as good, if not better) you would rather choose to only bring out the negativity?

Sounds much like a hater to me.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:05 AM #18
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Your assumption that creating a lower tier will cost them more flies in the face of business logic.

Cutting events into two tiers means the lower tier events will have less going on, IE: less to set up, less logistical concerns, less people/companies to contact and pay for services, less vendor space to have to contend with and manage, les entertainment for the fans to book and pay for, etc etc etc.

The fact this distinction is being made at all, is a sure sign of the NPPL wanting to cut corners wherever possible. Go ahead and slap a coat of fresh paint on it and spin this as a positive development all you want, the fact is that the NPPL is struggling and it's no secret.
I really struggle to understand your points which makes me think you're just here trying to ruffle feathers. 4 events on top of what existed last year means more time, logistics, venue costs and employees on the NPPL side. If you hate this league as much as you lead on, please just stop coming to events.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:28 AM #19
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The NPPL is having the minor league for several reasons:

1) To help those teams who cannot afford to travel far away for every event. (It will still give them a chance to win the series).
2) To maintain some connection with these venues and fields (they have supported the NPPL and the NPPL may go back to these locations in the future).
3) NPPL has tried to do the "affiliate league" thing before, but in many aspects they have not been successful. They have offered free entry to the next NPPL event as the prize of these affiliate leagues in the past and in some cases have struggled to get teams to attend. If they offer series points for them, more teams will be encouraged to attend and will help these fields as well as the league.
4) To grow the sport and help encourage more teams to form and move up. This is something that Pev stresses in just about every interview he does.
5) To help produce more revenue. The locations of the minor league events will take place at existing fields and will have greatly reduced costs compared to the major events since they will not bring all of the vendors, people, and equipment that the other events need.

These are in no order and I am sure there are a dozen more reasons. I do not know if this is going to help push the NPPL forward or not, but at least they are acting to try and stay afloat in a very expensive sport/world.
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I like the idea of minor events but it is a disadvantage to some teams living places that are far away from those minor events wont get the benefit of having an extra tournament to get points at. I wonder how they plan to level that disadvantage?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:55 AM #21
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I like the idea of minor events but it is a disadvantage to some teams living places that are far away from those minor events wont get the benefit of having an extra tournament to get points at. I wonder how they plan to level that disadvantage?
I think their approach at this point is doing what's best for the greater good. 4 minor events are 4 more than existed last year, so unfortunately I think that will fall on deaf ears. We all know there's no perfect solution but with 8 geographically dispersed events, the likelihood that your team can make one is greater than in years past.
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