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Old 12-30-2012, 11:14 PM #43
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i have a 1 of 1 csl but i do get higher offers than a regular csl would..
I believe you have a 1 of a kind not a 1 of 1. That anno can be replicated.

However....
PE has a lot of factory 1 of 1's go look at the list they put out in there section on this website.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:55 PM #44
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you can look at it both ways. if i custom ano my gun with a unique design that i created , then it would be a 1 of 1, but then there is the production meaning to 1 of 1
You said "custom/one of a kind."
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:58 PM #45
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You mean custom/one of a kind. You can't turn a 1 of 10,000 Honda civic into a 1 of 1 because you just but new rims and a paint job on it..... It's still 1 of 10,000, and it wasn't a factory released design. Some people's kids....
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:10 PM #46
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That's the argument. I don't believe in 1of1s (especially if it is just a paint job). I believe in 1 of xx or xxx. Makes it more real and desirable to a collector as well as to the user of the product.
Ah, that's the subjective part. You believe it is so, but I couldn't care less. For me it's just a stock gun... one that's probably going to be altered considerably once it comes into my hands if it doesn't fit my personal preferences.

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Think about it. 1of1 is a marketing tool by people who know their gun is not worth what they want, so they use this phrase to entice (fraudulently IMO) others.
False. It's a accurate description of a piece of custom work. If custom work is more appealing to you than off the shelf stock pieces then this would be a good thing to know. Though "custom" is definitely a more appropriate label.

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In the real world
As opposed to here in Narnia.

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a real 1of1 would be astronomical money for the product. This makes sense.
Yes, but not for the reasons you think. In the real world a true 1 of 1 would involve you paying people to design and build a one of a kind unique creation. Factories almost never release a 1 of 1, even deliberately. Those that do aren't manufacturers, they're custom shops.

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(Ex. Dark dm4 is not even 1of1 but gets way more money then these so called 1of1. Why? Bc it was a factory number that gave its value, not some bull**** aftermarket paint job).
You are mistaken on a number of details. The small number of Dark DM4's was not a deliberate factory produced number. It was, in essence, a prototype. A partially failed prototype at that (wasn't deemed structurally sound for standard use is the usual story). They didn't set off to make a limited edition, they set off to make a mass produced private label edition, which they failed to do. That's what makes it rare.

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In addition check out how much people are asking for the planet eclipse 20 year anniversary csl and geo and they are 1of20. By common knowledge people who say they have a 1of1 csl should bring in way more money than a csl 1of20. However this would never happen. Why bc the manufacturer regulated the amount produced.
It's not the "1 of 20" aspect that's bringing in those prices, it's the "20 year anniversary" part. Don't confuse "limited edition" with historical significance and collectible desirability.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:18 AM #47
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Here is a rare one that was also a bust for a mass production gun.

Many of them are changing hands at higher prices than a CSL.


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Old 01-04-2013, 09:53 AM #48
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I wonder how much the prototype marq would sell for

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GreekGods shocker. There's a true 1 of 1 marker. Also seems to fit OP's description of what it truly takes to be 1 of 1.
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GreekGods shocker. There's a true 1 of 1 marker. Also seems to fit OP's description of what it truly takes to be 1 of 1.
Gmax more like 1of4. But I'm with you on that. This is one of the true markers that gets to wear the colors.

In addition to the dark dm4. Prototypes I feel fall into this category bc prototypes were going to manufactured but for some reason didn't but this was a choice by the producing company, therefore the value will be added.

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Old 01-04-2013, 11:03 AM #51
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It's not the "1 of 20" aspect that's bringing in those prices, it's the "20 year anniversary" part. Don't confuse "limited edition" with historical significance and collectible desirability.[/quote]

Maybe I'll rip up your other words later. Hahaha. But for now just this section. It is completely the 1out of 20 which gives these guns the value over msrp. If they made 5000 20th Ann just bc of the year like other companies do then there value would only be MSRP and nothing more. Which would be 1200 - 1600 depending. That's all.
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It's not the "1 of 20" aspect that's bringing in those prices, it's the "20 year anniversary" part. Don't confuse "limited edition" with historical significance and collectible desirability.
Maybe I'll rip up your other words later. Hahaha. But for now just this section. It is completely the 1out of 20 which gives these guns the value over msrp. If they made 5000 20th Ann just bc of the year like other companies do then there value would only be MSRP and nothing more. Which would be 1200 - 1600 depending. That's all.[/quote]

I don't think you understand what he is saying. 20th anniversary is the reason (historical significance) for the number produced "20". That's why they are more valuable. Not just because there is 20. Take for instance a vicious model ego same year of the 20th anniversary where they only made "10". Same guns but the 20th anniversary will be worth more because it's historically more significant.
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Maybe I'll rip up your other words later. Hahaha. But for now just this section. It is completely the 1out of 20 which gives these guns the value over msrp. If they made 5000 20th Ann just bc of the year like other companies do then there value would only be MSRP and nothing more. Which would be 1200 - 1600 depending. That's all.
I don't think you understand what he is saying. 20th anniversary is the reason (historical significance) for the number produced "20". That's why they are more valuable. Not just because there is 20. Take for instance a vicious model ego same year of the 20th anniversary where they only made "10". Same guns but the 20th anniversary will be worth more because it's historically more significant.[/quote]

I understand his logic
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:46 PM #54
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I happen to see this and it pretty much embodies this thread:

Bone stock closer with an anno the owner hasn't see so he assumes it is a 1 of 1.

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1 of 1 to my knowledge

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thats a swap out, the lime green was a rare color in the sense that there are less green ones that other colors

and in my mind 1 of 1 will include milling etc but will not include anno unless you consider something like the XSV sl74 with the good sir Mr. Cash on it, because you cant just walk up and ask for someone to just anno that on there,it alot harder to replicate, so we could consider rare guns to be Hard to replicate, or limited runs....
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thats a swap out, the lime green was a rare color in the sense that there are less green ones that other colors

and in my mind 1 of 1 will include milling etc but will not include anno unless you consider something like the XSV sl74 with the good sir Mr. Cash on it, because you cant just walk up and ask for someone to just anno that on there,it alot harder to replicate, so we could consider rare guns to be Hard to replicate, or limited runs....
Thank you with understanding the milling Vs anno debate
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Thank you with understanding the milling Vs anno debate
im a bob long guy, what can i say lol
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I wonder how much the prototype marq would sell for
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:37 AM #59
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Even just millling or extensive modding with anno doesn't make a gun completely 1 of 1.

This gun is one of maybe 2 or 3 in which a shocker was heavily modded to accept a DM frame and had to even be modded to use a DM solenoid. However, he wasn't the only one to do it.





1 of 1 would have to be something nearly impossible to replicate. Which you just don't see.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:19 AM #60
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Anyone seen the prototype marq that's picture resurfaces every now and then? That's definitely a 1 of 1

Edit: just saw it was posted above. And that this thread is dead. My bad.
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