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Old 01-10-2013, 02:09 PM #1
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My Empire ER3, again. :(

Once again, guys. An insight of someone who worked with this marker would be appreciated.
My(and my firend's) empire ER3 refused to to shoot at temperature around -10 degrees Celsius.(approx 14 Fahrenheit). Well, kind of. Pressing the trigger got the gun to discharge 2-3 times rapidly and fail to re-cock itself.
I'm using compressed air, nothing fancy. Everything default.
The locals told me, its a common spyder\spyder clone issue.

Is there a way i can prevent that\prepare my marker for winter?
I'm regularly lubing all the o-rings of my marker with Hater Sauce.(I never have oiled it by dropping some oil into ASA and discharging couple of times)

Sorry if my engrish is bad. It's not my native,
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:30 PM #2
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What pressure is your tank? You need a higher pressure tank for the ER3. When it is colder the o-rings shrink and get harder and don't work so well. You don't want to be using a grease on the o-rings in colder weather. You want to use a lighter oil.

It sounds like the hammer o-ring isn't good, the hammer isn't lubricated (or the grease is making it stick in the cold, or the tank pressure is too low.
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Old 01-10-2013, 02:32 PM #3
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Probably the striker/hammer o-ring that's not letting it get a good seal. That's what the problem is 90% of the time. Check to see if that's intact/not dry and replace it, then oil it up.

It's probably a good idea to put some oil through your gun as well.

As for preparing your gun for winter, it's really just going to take a lot of frequent re-oiling and keeping it inside whenever possible.

Edit: Didn't see Simon's ninja post. He mentions tank pressure which could be an issue as well. You'll need a tank regulator that is considered high pressure (800 psi or so)
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:32 PM #4
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Really nice to see that the community here helps people out pretty fast Much better than in years past.

Also nice to see that your playing even in such insanely cold weather.
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Old 01-10-2013, 05:01 PM #5
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If you're using a high pressure HPA tank, check your hammer and tank o-rings, if they're just fine check that your hammer has some oil on it. If neither of those things help check your sear (the thing in the top of the grip frame) to make sure it's not chipped. At the field I worked at, we had an entire run of ER3s with sears that chipped and broke easily, KEE had us set up with new sears in no time though.
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